Looking at the screenshot, the management interface is the one that's on the Ubiquiti website, rather than a locally hosted controller. I don't really have a problem with them putting ads on their own website. Use a local controller if you don't want to see them. Install the software on a raspberry pi, it runs just fine.
Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
So this awful response was part of the official script? That's even worse.
But it doesn't justify being rude to the support person.
So the support person is a glorified bot, but we have to be careful not to hurt it's feelings? Honestly I feel for the support guy, but he represents the company. And companies purposely push their support onto social media platforms like twitter - where exactly are unhappy customers supposed to vent their anger?
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#213For those people here saying "go Ruckus unleashed" ... caveat emptor my friends !
I have it on very good authority that Ruckus have started rolling out a change in their pricing model to require a Unleashed license per AP to operate, a move which obviously increases costs to the end-user.
Some people might say its a deliberate move prevent cannibalisation of their main business model by nudging people away from Unleashed. I couldn't possibly comment.
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#214I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…
I am very much anti-advertising, at least the way it currently operates on the web and the inherent invasion of privacy but I think from a technical perspective what's happening here is very different compared with how a traditional banner advert is being displayed and it's not constructive to directly compare the two.
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#215I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…
The sentiment definitely resonates. The way I see it, advertising is a cancer on modern society[0]. The two big tech-related social problems so frequently discussed these days - surveillance capitalism and outrage culture - are directly caused by it.
> Perhaps I'm growing increasingly blind to any positive impacts of the discipline, but ethically I find it hard to separate the fraudsters from the engineers that enable them.
There are definitely useful spinoffs - like they always are, when you throw a lot of money and a bright mind into solving tough problems. But it's hard to argue the positives here where the primary driver is a huge net social negative, and spinoffs could've been done pursuing better goals.
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[0] - And I mean that - http://jacek.zlydach.pl/blog/2019-07-31-ads-as-cancer.html.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ad is a broad term, this confuses people. This shit is definitely worse than ads on the box, but it also definitely isn't the entire monstrosity we have come to assume when hearing about ads on web pages.
Somewhere an engineer was tasked to write software that does an inventory of my network to see what new shiny hardware of theirs I don’t yet own. Then, the software that was written to manage a product that I paid for shoves a call-to-action that takes a considerable amount of the page to suggest I buy it. And I can’t dismiss or close it. The difference with ads on the web is that I paid for the privilege of being se…
> Somewhere an engineer was tasked to write software that does an inventory of my network to see what new shiny hardware of theirs I don’t yet own.
No. Somewhere a marketer queried a database using a simple marketing automation tool to decide which of a variety of banners to show you.
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
Advertising is the most toxic virus ruining everything it touches. TV, then Cable TV, radio, usenet, on and on. Can anything survive the destructive ravage of ads? In my dream world, all forms of push advertising would be illegal, full stop. Meanwhile, I'll put whatever effort it takes to block everything.
I dread to think what happens when ads collide with cryptocurrencies. They’ll either wipe each other out or merge into something far horrible.
They're already dating and it looks like marriage is afoot. Plenty of ads driving people into crypto scams.
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#218Looking at the screenshot, the management interface is the one that's on the Ubiquiti website, rather than a locally hosted controller. I don't really have a problem with them putting ads on their own website. Use a local controller if you don't want to see them. Install the software on a raspberry pi, it runs just fine.
Their hosted version is only acting as a proxy to my physical paid for cloud key. If I access it locally I also get this shit.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 3. Github is a SaaS. > 4. unify.ui.com is a SaaS One of those is not like the other. Unify UI is completely useless without a corresponding purchase of a physical good. I don't care about Github's "ads" (quotes are intentional) because (1) they most unintrusive (2) not selling me an expensive piece of hardware
Either they are ads or they are not, whether they are intrusive or what they are selling, or even aren't selling anything are immaterial. If they are promoting something, it's an ad.
Lol. You are missing the point.
You pay Ubiquiti for the hardware and software to control the hardware. And they still show you ads in the software!
You're paying nothing to GitHub.
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#220This is on the hosted interface, right? I can sorta understand that, especially when the ads are for their own gear. But if I start seeing ads in my locally installed copy of Unifi, this will be a problem.
The “hosted” interface is nothing but a proxy to my paid for cloud key. I also see this when I access it locally.