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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by wyuenho »

lstamour wrote: post #158
wyuenho wrote: post #139

I'm going to go out on a limb here to point out the inconsistency of this entire thread. For the following reasoning, I'm going to use the word "ad" in the broad sense. 1. Everybody is excited with Github's new features that they promote on the dashboard. Sometimes popups and flashes too. Are they not ads? 2. Nobody ever complains about Github showing ads. 3. Github is a SaaS. 4. unify.ui.com is a SaaS 5. OP is compl…

Github makes it a single click to hide their intrusive notifications and such. They're rather tasteful at where and when they show you something. They have a notifications panel you can click once and then it won't bug you until the next time. This screenshot shows the ad takes up a huge chunk of real estate and can only be turned off by presumably opting out of some new experience, which means it might become perman…

Apple is already pushing you ads in macOS, just click on the App Store menu item, or open Music, or News, or TV, or Podcasts.

I don't disagree much with what you said, I'm just not sure if people actually know what they are arguing for. If the Ubiquity ad is too intrusive, complain about that. If it's a sweeping stance against all ads in things you've paid for, argue for that. I'm not seeing people make that distinction here. It's always both, and you can't argue for both at the same time.

The first tweet argues against ads in SaaS, and the second tweet argues against intrusive ads. If you argue against intrusive ads, then that means non-intrusive ads should be okay. If you argue for a blanket no-ad policy in products or services you've already paid for, even if the ads come from the same company you've bought your goods from, you don't need to argue whether the ads are intrusive or not.

This is what OP and lots of people don't seem to understand, and I'm quite surprised that this kind of logic actually flies on HN.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by eschaton »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #100
trylfthsk wrote: post #85

I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

Having less exposure to advertising, given that I watch less advertising-interrupted television than ever and have had a pi-hole running for a good couple of years, when I am exposed to advertising I'm reminded of how incredibly bottom-feeding it is. I've said it before: Advertising is a psychological attack on human weakness. > I find it hard to separate the fraudsters from the engineers that enable them Paraphrasin…

Most advertising literally attempts to hack an audience’s brains, which everyone should instantly recognize as being black-hat.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by pmlnr »

worldmerge wrote: post #53
kogir wrote: post #47

Ubiquiti has really fallen far. The 5.x series of controller with the AP AC (S)HD was great, but everything since has been hot garbage. The 6.x series of controllers is still basically a public beta and riddled with bugs. The newer MediaTek based APs have constant problems with client device compatibility, and can’t even reliably support DHCP on the newest official firmware and controller versions (or any of the last…

Do you have any brands you would recommended for home use for "prosumers"?

Maybe https://www.turris.com/en/omnia/overview/ is worth a shot.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by sitkack »

eschaton wrote: post #162
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having less exposure to advertising, given that I watch less advertising-interrupted television than ever and have had a pi-hole running for a good couple of years, when I am exposed to advertising I'm reminded of how incredibly bottom-feeding it is. I've said it before: Advertising is a psychological attack on human weakness. > I find it hard to separate the fraudsters from the engineers that enable them Paraphrasin…

Most advertising literally attempts to hack an audience’s brains, which everyone should instantly recognize as being black-hat.

At the same time, we have created super computers that run on expansion cards that are being used for that same black-hat activity. Currently measured in the 10s of teraflops of processing power.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by Animats »

wyuenho wrote: post #139

I'm going to go out on a limb here to point out the inconsistency of this entire thread. For the following reasoning, I'm going to use the word "ad" in the broad sense. 1. Everybody is excited with Github's new features that they promote on the dashboard. Sometimes popups and flashes too. Are they not ads? 2. Nobody ever complains about Github showing ads. 3. Github is a SaaS. 4. unify.ui.com is a SaaS 5. OP is compl…

Github has ads? Not on the repository pages, which are the only ones worth visiting.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by sitkack »

officialjunk wrote: post #142
webmaven wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't see how making router software open source for a company that is selling hardware is not a win. There are several business tactics that are foreclosed by making the router software open source, mostly around price discrimination. For example, you can't sell the same hardware for different prices with some hardware features turned off in the higher-volume cheaper SKU (which lets you apply greater efficiencie…

isn't tesla selling cars of the same hardware at different prices with some hardware features turned off at lower prices?

> software open source for a company that is selling hardware is not a win

Tesla doesn't release the software to their cars.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by SCHiM »

jnsaff2 wrote: post #147
gregoryl wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a flip side experience, I have a dream machine too; it ignored my auto update settings and updated itself anyway, there's no way to roll back, and it now regularly stops responding, has high packet loss over wifi and supports response was effectively "go jump". Very unhappy.

Yea, I've had a few problems with UDM as well. The management UI/controller container has died numerous times so to get visibility into whats happening I need to ssh in and restart that container or restart the router. I've also had numerous cases where routing has stopped for no reason. This I find really bad as, "it has one job ...".

That update that was supposed to be off (a known problem.) Bricked my VPN config in a time of quarantine away from home.

That was a fun thing to explain. My respect for this company was stellar, but is now around rock bottom.

For me that was the "one job" problem.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by hansel_der »

Animats wrote: post #165
wyuenho wrote: post #139

I'm going to go out on a limb here to point out the inconsistency of this entire thread. For the following reasoning, I'm going to use the word "ad" in the broad sense. 1. Everybody is excited with Github's new features that they promote on the dashboard. Sometimes popups and flashes too. Are they not ads? 2. Nobody ever complains about Github showing ads. 3. Github is a SaaS. 4. unify.ui.com is a SaaS 5. OP is compl…

Github has ads? Not on the repository pages, which are the only ones worth visiting.

it's more like they nag 'bout this and that, i'm astonished everytime i use a browser w/o ublock.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by SkyPuncher »

wyuenho wrote: post #139

I'm going to go out on a limb here to point out the inconsistency of this entire thread. For the following reasoning, I'm going to use the word "ad" in the broad sense. 1. Everybody is excited with Github's new features that they promote on the dashboard. Sometimes popups and flashes too. Are they not ads? 2. Nobody ever complains about Github showing ads. 3. Github is a SaaS. 4. unify.ui.com is a SaaS 5. OP is compl…

> 3. Github is a SaaS.

> 4. unify.ui.com is a SaaS

One of those is not like the other. Unify UI is completely useless without a corresponding purchase of a physical good.

I don't care about Github's "ads" (quotes are intentional) because (1) they most unintrusive (2) not selling me an expensive piece of hardware

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