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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by croutonwagon »

acidbaseextract wrote: post #76
croutonwagon wrote: post #65

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Ive been using them since gen1 hardware on 2.6 controllers. And their advertised features like zero handoff were hot garbage. Their channel selection to this day still sucks and isn’t even self aware. I often have multiple aps on the same channel close enough they have their own co-channel interference. This even happens on 5Ghz where theres plenty of space, not even considering DFS and I live in the country. Standar…

With the depth of your experience, what's your prosumer recommendation? MikroTik?

for wireless AP's? It really depends. I actually just went with Wave2 stuff. In the end i bought some UAP-AC-HD's because

1. I am familiar/setup to handle their quirks and had 99% of the setup already done.

2. I really wanted an AP with Dual 5Ghz AND dual 2.4 Ghz dedicated antennas for some very specific applications (multiple rtsp streams over wifi+client plex wifi streams+client traffic. With the first two largely being on 2.4Ghz.

3. I am lazy (lots of this, my wife is less tolerant of me re-designing the wheel and being locked into an upgrade for days)

4. The security stuff i had mostly addressed anyway.

If this were a greenfield purchase or I didn't really need/want dedicated radios.

Id go with a ruckus. the r700 unleashed and/or r500 unleashed can be found cheap and are chock full of features. and 2x2:2 is normally going to be perfectly fine in a home setting.

Going with ones that are "unleashed" mean that the controller runs on the AP's. not extra hardware needed.

For most home uses. wave1 is still more than enough and their Wave1 AP's can be had cheap. Hell you can probably even get one of the R710/R510's in a very good price range and be at wave2.

For switching...mikrotik is solid for cheap and works and stable. Even modems etc. For firewalls my preference is BSD, so something like opnsense...But mikrotik will probably do okay as well.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by jcpham2 »

sathackr wrote: post #89
acidbaseextract wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the depth of your experience, what's your prosumer recommendation? MikroTik?

Mikrotik has a great feature set and is mostly stable for the mainstream features. Where they really fall apart is wifi throughput. Most devices won't top 400mb/s. There is some hope on the horizon with v7 and the newest devices like Audience. Have seen reports of 1.3gb/s on these. But it's barely even beta right now. Ruckus is pretty solid and you can usually find them used for great prices. Many units have a stand…

We used to operate a satellite office whose primary internet service was Mikrotik directional AP’s bridged at both ends and this was maybe a half mile line of sight uplink.

My testing even on gigabit chipsets mirrors your 400 mbit per AP comment, at least in my situation.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by SkyPuncher »

seneca wrote: post #70

This is disappointing. I've been waffling on buying a full Unifi setup for my home, but all the terrible reviews for the UDMP, and now this, have given me pause. Are there any decent non-Chinese pro-sumer networking suites like Unifi that folks would recommend?

I was in the same boat. I've been running the older equipment that's currently doing just fine.

We're looking at the prospect of getting fiber this summer. Figured I'd use the opportunity to get all in on Ubiquiti. This is the nail in the coffin for me.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by anyfoo »

sathackr wrote: post #89
acidbaseextract wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the depth of your experience, what's your prosumer recommendation? MikroTik?

Mikrotik has a great feature set and is mostly stable for the mainstream features. Where they really fall apart is wifi throughput. Most devices won't top 400mb/s. There is some hope on the horizon with v7 and the newest devices like Audience. Have seen reports of 1.3gb/s on these. But it's barely even beta right now. Ruckus is pretty solid and you can usually find them used for great prices. Many units have a stand…

Thank you. Do Ruckus support wireless downlinks? I can't lay cables here, so the switch in my home office needs to be fed by an access point.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by croutonwagon »

anyfoo wrote: post #94
sathackr wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mikrotik has a great feature set and is mostly stable for the mainstream features. Where they really fall apart is wifi throughput. Most devices won't top 400mb/s. There is some hope on the horizon with v7 and the newest devices like Audience. Have seen reports of 1.3gb/s on these. But it's barely even beta right now. Ruckus is pretty solid and you can usually find them used for great prices. Many units have a stand…

Thank you. Do Ruckus support wireless downlinks? I can't lay cables here, so the switch in my home office needs to be fed by an access point.

With unleashed they do. Its otherwise known as meshing pretty much anywhere else.

https://docs.ruckuswireless.com/unleashed/200.1.9.12/c-MeshO...

If you are talking long distances you need to start looking at directional antennas...But to say..span an A-Frame house...they would do fine as others as well.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by thaumaturgy »

andremedeiros wrote: post #80
thaumaturgy wrote: post #77

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It's been a decade or so since I paid attention to Engenius, but I don't think it's right to describe them as a Ubiquiti clone. Engenius for a little while was the vendor of choice for people trying to build out consumer mesh networks. Ubiquiti may have existed then too, but didn't become the more popular choice until a little later. Back then, Engenius had a lot of nice features and solid products, but their radios…

What would you buy?

I dunno. I'd be starting all over again and looking for different options depending on the application. One of the nice things about Ubiquiti was that they did several things well.

For plug-and-play home wifi, Eero might be a good choice, with some reservations.

For slightly larger scale prosumer stuff, I might look for a way to use Ubiquiti's hardware but with something like https://hostifi.com/ , maybe with older-generation hardware that I still trusted.

For the DIY hobbyist, pfsense, openwrt, and kin are still popular.

Honestly, mesh networks have been a tarpit forever. It's been exceedingly difficult to make them reliable, with all the features people want (like access point roaming), without spending a lot of time or money. I got out of that niche a few years back and have no desire to get back in to it.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by SkyPuncher »

mikelward wrote: post #88

One auto update they broke my laptop's ability to connect. Turns out they'd auto enabled 5 GHz band steering, but my laptop's chipset only did 2.4 GHz. Even when it was enabled, the Android management app said the setting was disabled. Customer support directed me to the forums. Ubiquiti didn't respond to my post. I posted on a thread where someone else was seeing the same problem, where a number of people gaslit me…

Holy crap! This must be what I'm dealing with.

I have an old laptop that I was trying to fire up to run some lightweight games on. I could not get it to connect to wi-fi for the life of me. Must be the band steering.

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Post by hpkuarg »

worldmerge wrote: post #53
kogir wrote: post #47

Ubiquiti has really fallen far. The 5.x series of controller with the AP AC (S)HD was great, but everything since has been hot garbage. The 6.x series of controllers is still basically a public beta and riddled with bugs. The newer MediaTek based APs have constant problems with client device compatibility, and can’t even reliably support DHCP on the newest official firmware and controller versions (or any of the last…

Do you have any brands you would recommended for home use for "prosumers"?

For wireless APs, check out TP-Link's Omada line.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

trylfthsk wrote: post #85

I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

Having less exposure to advertising, given that I watch less advertising-interrupted television than ever and have had a pi-hole running for a good couple of years, when I am exposed to advertising I'm reminded of how incredibly bottom-feeding it is.

I've said it before: Advertising is a psychological attack on human weakness.

> I find it hard to separate the fraudsters from the engineers that enable them

Paraphrasing because I can't find the original:

"What does it say of humanity to have so many of the smartest minds in the world working on making advertising more effective"

> this screed was therapeutic

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