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Re: The end of Facebook

#91

This is borne out by my experience. A slowly increasing number of my friends are cutting down their use, and eventually leaving. This might just be due to my cohort of friends getting older, but the article claims it is a general trend. What is definitely true, is that nobody I know feels anything positive about facebook, at all. It is seen simply as a sinister, addictive[1] necessary evil. This is the case regardles…

Twitter seems to be losing steam faster than facebook, which I think is a shame. (E.g. http://attentionmeter.com/?d1=facebook.com&d2=twitter.co... ) My experience with Twitter (which I use all the time) is that spam is getting worse and worse and Twitter isn't even doing obvious things to fight it. Facebook is simply built of spam, so that's not an awful comparison, but I think it's hurting Twitter.

I'm surprised at how few of my friends use Twitter, or even consider it. I wish they would, but for some reason they (all non-techy people) are on facebook every day but if they have a Twitter account at all, it's little-used and dormant.

It's rather easy to 'get' facebook, since it's pretty much a mish-mash of various communication technologies that have already proved themselves, including Twitter. I think new, non-techy visitors to Twitter are confused by what it does in some ways. Twitter's interface and presentation play a large role in that.

Twitter feels less personal than Facebook. The 73x73 image is tiny compared to Facebook's profile image, and there's little info on the page about real social connections. You are limited to one type of content, tiny text messages. It seems like a social site, but doesn't feel very connected. It seems to me Twitter is a mess of missed opportunities and muddled focus right now. They've tried to push it as a way to keep up with celebrities... Apple's iTunes 'ping' hasn't worked out with that whole Pro>Consumer set up.

I think Twitter's strength is in being a messaging system. People could use it to replace SMS, free, with a better interface - or does it have a better interface? Twitter's DM capabilities leave a bit to be desired. The web interface is rather feature-free, and aren't they cutting off API/OAuth access to DMs soon or something? Anyhow, look what the NYT did with Twitter's service recently - that is the sort of building on Twitter I see occurring, but I'm not even sure if Twitter themselves understand the potential for Twitter to become infrastructure, not just a way for people broadcast how much you hate traffic or like a sandwich.

Re: The end of Facebook

#92

This is borne out by my experience. A slowly increasing number of my friends are cutting down their use, and eventually leaving. This might just be due to my cohort of friends getting older, but the article claims it is a general trend. What is definitely true, is that nobody I know feels anything positive about facebook, at all. It is seen simply as a sinister, addictive[1] necessary evil. This is the case regardles…

> What is definitely true, is that nobody I know feels anything positive about facebook, at all. It is seen simply as a sinister, addictive[1] necessary evil.

You and your friends probably spend so much time online for work that you reproach yourselves for excesses like Facebook. (FWIW I'm no different.) The majority of the normal, non-technical users I know don't view Facebook as evil. They just think of it as something everybody uses nowadays, like e-mail. I don't think those users are going anywhere anytime soon.

Facebook has reached an inevitable point where everyone who hasn't signed up either doesn't want to, or can't (no internet access). I mean, do you know anyone who really wants to sign up for Facebook but hasn't gotten around to it yet? It's no surprise that their growth would eventually slow. I wouldn't read too much into it. They're going to be around for a long, long time.

Re: The end of Facebook

#93

This is borne out by my experience. A slowly increasing number of my friends are cutting down their use, and eventually leaving. This might just be due to my cohort of friends getting older, but the article claims it is a general trend. What is definitely true, is that nobody I know feels anything positive about facebook, at all. It is seen simply as a sinister, addictive[1] necessary evil. This is the case regardles…

Facebook needs to take a lesson from what has happened to Microsoft. Microsoft is making its best products ever but the reputation of Windows is so soured that it doesn't matter. People associate Windows with viruses and crashes. Now people use Windows because they have to, not because they want to . Facebook is in danger of suffering the same thing. Like you, I have a lot of non-technical friends who feel uneasy abo…

Well to be honest, what are the choices FOR Windows (this applies to Facebook as well):

1) It's ubiquitous so it's not like a statement that you like windows.

2) Main competitor is Apple/OSX which has always required a hardware upgrade/switch as the OS doesn't install on Win boxes.

3) PC manufacturers are operating on razor thin margins, so any joy you might get from the hardware is often minimal due to low quality parts... you have to be an enthusiast to have a decent experience or pay as much as the Mac users do.

Microsoft is a victim of it's own success... they forgot they actually have customers (not just consumers, businesses) and became arrogant.

Re: The end of Facebook

#94
post #6

I'm not the biggest fan of facebook, but this guy is completely unqualified to comment on the intricacies of long-term growth and sustainability in social media... just look at his profile: http://blogs.forbes.com/people/timworstall/ He has nothing to do with the technology industry. Also, he doesn't back up his rhetoric with data... this is an opinion piece and a flaky one at that.

His flaky opinion piece seems to have done a reasonable job of starting a conversation.

Re: The end of Facebook

#95
post #87
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went over to Tusulog.com, but I didn't find anything to make me want to use it. :(

Thanks. Our site, as all SNs, are useful only if your friends are there. Classic chicken/egg situation. If you join and have a few friends over there believe me you'll say "I wish all my friends were here then everything become much easier".

You're not helping yourself by saying absolutely nothing on the site about why it's good and what the benefits are.

I will sign up for most things that seem novel or interesting, but I won't fill out a random form with no hint of what I might get for doing so.

Re: The end of Facebook

#96
I am so terribly sick of this: The headline is "The End of Facebook", followed immediately by the lede "Perhaps a little premature, this idea that the end of Facebook is nigh, but certainly the end of the beginning," which essentially completely debunks the entire headline right off the bat.

Writers: If you can't write anything compelling enough to not need to be carried by an overly sensationalist headline, please put your pens down and go sell used cars.

Re: The end of Facebook

#97
Yes, some people it's committing facebookcide but is pretty much irrelevant for you!

Go make a good damn startup yourself and stop procrastinating wasting your attention on overdramatized utterly irrelevant headlines.

Re: The end of Facebook

#98
It really seems that facebook may have overextended their good will with the public in repeatedly forcing privacy concessions. Only time will tell.

In any case, I'm not sure that this link isn't more than phishing for hits.

Re: The end of Facebook

#99
I used to be on it all the time because everyone was on, but as my friends got older, their companies blocked use of it at work, the people left just blab about how awesome their significant others are, hawk their business products & nightclub parties, or post baby pics all day.

The people really care about are on now for a few hours/minutes from 6 to 11:45 (if that) so my usage has cut down as well ... once in the morning, at lunch and at night.

I use twitter a lot more now as a result. I guess facebook has a new challenge, keeping older folks engaged and selling facebook to younger kids who are growing up on twitter instead of facebook as the dominant social media scene.

Re: The end of Facebook

#100
post #39

This is borne out by my experience. A slowly increasing number of my friends are cutting down their use, and eventually leaving. This might just be due to my cohort of friends getting older, but the article claims it is a general trend. What is definitely true, is that nobody I know feels anything positive about facebook, at all. It is seen simply as a sinister, addictive[1] necessary evil. This is the case regardles…

A slowly increasing number of my friends are cutting down their use, and eventually leaving. I know what they say about the plural of antidote, but I've personally noticed the same. I use it less, and when I do use it, I notice the people I care about on facebook are using it less too. Everything you say mirrors the response to facebook I've been seeing. Its no longer a toy, its just that thing you have and slowly wo…

This is what I do when I see a personal or corporate link to a Facebook page: I don't click on it. Because I know I can't access it.

The same as I used to do with Scientific American links, and other properties that were inside AOL's walled garden. The difference today is that corporations are smart enough to exist both inside and outside. Since they're already outside, I don't worry at all about what's inside; I'm not missing anything.

As for personal pages, I have the email and blog addresses of all my friends.

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