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Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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I think that number is from the dredgers rather than the excavators. Dredgers (ships) can shift sand faster than dozens of excavators.

It looks like you would be correct! Although the 27,000 metric tons appears to have been on point. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56547383

Thanks for providing a source!

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Also, if we’re being honest, a pack of software nerds on a website don’t have the deep expertise on every topic like they think they do (speaking as a software nerd on a website myself :)). The stuff that gets posted here sometimes is...fascinating.

To be fair, there were a number of people chiming in who were claiming to be experienced in that area (ex Navy captains, people who did dredging ops, etc). One of the big things that changed the timeline was that the highest tide of the month occurred yesterday; if not, I imagine that ship would be stuck for another month!

It took them a few days to dredge away meters of sand. Why would it take more than a few additional days to dredge away another couple meters of sand?

Of course each meter of depth is a little harder, but not that much harder.

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It's worth looking at the discussion of the ship just three days ago on Hacker News[1]. A lot of what people thought was true (that it would be stuck there for weeks, being dismissive of using tugboats to pull it out) didn't pan out as expected. Just a reminder that we should always take what we read with a grain of salt, and that it's fine to reserve judgement and see what will actually happen after the initial medi…

To be fair: Maersk, biggest shipping company in the world also came to the conclusion that it will take longer and sent their ships the way around africa. It's always a gamble and every outcome has it's probabilities.

that may still be the right choice given that now there is a huge backlog

Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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Looks like https://istheshipstillstuck.com/ has updated their message!

The website offers related book recommendations. I would also recommend Alex Madrigal’s Containers podcast series. [1] [2] [3]

[1]: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/containers/id120955917... "iTunes"

[2]: https://soundcloud.com/containersfmg "SoundCloud"

[3]: https://www.stitcher.com/show/containers "Stitcher"

Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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Delivery to end customers is not equivalent to delivery as part of a supply chain. Instead of $1K of iPhones, think of it as $1Mn worth of components for a manufacturing process or items to be placed on a shelf. Many of those items' shipping timeframes are well-known and factored into calculations of supply and demand. If a customer wants to buy something from you and you're out of stock, they're generally not going…

So what you're saying is, "it's complicated"?

Quite, but I'm also saying that your analogy was terminally flawed. Supply chain shipping != shipping your widget from Amazon.

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As someone who watches a few too many YouTube videos on all things space, I consider myself to be a leading cosmologist, astrophysicist, and rocket scientist. I can speak w/ great confidence to anyone who knows nothing about these subjects.

> I can speak w/ great confidence to anyone who knows nothing about these subjects. heh sorry, can't tell how serious you're being. but it tickles my brain that there's someone who would also vibe with that byline: con artists :)

I'm being serious if you know nothing about space :)

Did you know my experimental observations of quantum gravity & string theory are as good, if not better, than the world's top scientists? If you print this comment on paper, I will have been published & peer reviewed, too!

Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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That's too bad. Now the hysterical media will have to find something else to get worked up about.

Oh, this was actually a fun disaster compared to almost anything else! If only we could live in a world where the worst international news story is a big boat being temporarily stuck with people making silly memes about it.

It's not that it wasn't fun. It's that the media goes into absurd hyperbole on every subject.

This boat was going to be stuck for weeks, and maybe forever!

...and now they'll shift to absurd hyperbole on some other topic that is potentially more damaging.

Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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Good thing hacker news doesn't run large civil engineering projects.

That thread was a good chuckle though -- a bunch of mostly software devs brainstorming on freeing one of the biggest containers ships from their comfy armchairs. [0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26585282

Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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Good thing hacker news doesn't run large civil engineering projects.

You know, I used to think that HN was a collection of some of the smartest people on the Internet. Don’t get me wrong, there are some incredible people here. But I guess what I have learned over the past 10 years is that HN has as many blind spots as any other online forum. If you want SV advice, this is the place to be. If you want to dislodge a stuck mega ship, look elsewhere.
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