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Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it turns out to be human error related, how much liability falls on the actual ship's captain versus the required canal pilot?

Google “Costa Concordia” for a simulation of that scenario.

If you're up for a bit of a humorous take on the matter, this video is great; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9KBwqGxTI

Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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It's worth looking at the discussion of the ship just three days ago on Hacker News[1]. A lot of what people thought was true (that it would be stuck there for weeks, being dismissive of using tugboats to pull it out) didn't pan out as expected. Just a reminder that we should always take what we read with a grain of salt, and that it's fine to reserve judgement and see what will actually happen after the initial media storm passes.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26585282

Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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I wonder why the previous link to track it is not working again. Would have been cool to see it navigating the canal: https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9811000

> imo=9811000 I find it neat? strange? that IMO numbers have checksums: > An IMO number is made of the three letters "IMO" followed by a seven-digit number. This consists of a six-digit sequential unique number followed by a check digit. The integrity of an IMO number can be verified using its check digit. This is done by multiplying each of the first six digits by a factor of 2 to 7 corresponding to their position f…

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Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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Was it reported how it got stuck in the first place?

They blamed a sandstorm, but the Taiwanese operator blamed the Japanese owner for it. And the Japanese operator agrees. Basically, we're not getting the real answer to this question. Also, the following: > However, the chairman of Egypt's Suez Canal Authority said Saturday, without giving details, that weather conditions "were not the main reasons" for the grounding, and that "there may have been technical or human r…

There is no way the only reason was because of the wind. I mean if because of strong wind boats become uncontrollable we would have this kind of event pretty frequently. So it is clearly something else, (which may have been emphasized by a strong wind, or have been triggered by a strong wind)

Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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post #17

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Whenever you see such absurdly high numbers attached to cost estimates, always try to understand how they calculate it. This took the "$400 million / hour of shipped goods are being delayed" figure and ran with it by multiplying it, claiming that's the total damage cost. Now ask yourself: Let's say you're sending a parcel via UPS that contains an iphone, or simply $1000 worth of goods. At the last stopping point of t…

Delivery to end customers is not equivalent to delivery as part of a supply chain. Instead of $1K of iPhones, think of it as $1Mn worth of components for a manufacturing process or items to be placed on a shelf. Many of those items' shipping timeframes are well-known and factored into calculations of supply and demand. If a customer wants to buy something from you and you're out of stock, they're generally not going to sit on their hands and wait patiently, they're going to buy from your competitors or not at all. That money is gone.

Also, consider that we're at the end of a financial quarter, and this could also account for missed targets for all manner of industry.

Re: Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is OK for me but maybe the web server is submerged under the load

Unfortunately at 02:53:44 GMT a web request which, due to high botnet activity and a packet storm, experienced poor routing conditions and unfortunately became wedged in one of the major transatlantic fiber optic cables. Network operators are working to free the stuck request. It is estimated that 50 billion requests per minute are queueing in the cable which will soon become filled if the situation is not resolved q…

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