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The end of Facebook

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Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by wmeredith »

pixpax wrote: post #35

This recent spurt of articles about how Facebook is supposedly declining is based entirely on the Facebook self service ad tool as far as I can tell. An initial study of the numbers that the tool was reporting back was compared more recently and the differences supposedly indicate drop off in numbers. None of the subsequent articles that I've read seem to mention how the data was gathered, just that Facebook has lost…

And Facebook themselves has said the the tool (which they own and maintain) provides a provides a useful sample of data, not a comprehensive data set. This is much the same way that Google Adwords estimator tool works.

Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by zaidf »

Facebook's biggest blunder could be their continued focus on increasing engagement at the expense of giving more granular privacy options.

There is no reason I should not be able to maintain all my different identities--as an employee, as a friend, as a son--on facebook. With the influx of my younger cousins and older family members, I had to pick my facebook identity. Now, I play it a lot more safe and don't post half the stuff I would usually do.

I like to see facebook as kind of like a physical world hangout spot. Before, it was just people of my generation. Now it is all generation mixed together in one room. And yet, there it is very possible to let me create multiple rooms and pick who I choose to have in each of my rooms.

Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by pestaa »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #14
JonnieCache wrote: post #3

This is borne out by my experience. A slowly increasing number of my friends are cutting down their use, and eventually leaving. This might just be due to my cohort of friends getting older, but the article claims it is a general trend. What is definitely true, is that nobody I know feels anything positive about facebook, at all. It is seen simply as a sinister, addictive[1] necessary evil. This is the case regardles…

Facebook needs to take a lesson from what has happened to Microsoft. Microsoft is making its best products ever but the reputation of Windows is so soured that it doesn't matter. People associate Windows with viruses and crashes. Now people use Windows because they have to, not because they want to . Facebook is in danger of suffering the same thing. Like you, I have a lot of non-technical friends who feel uneasy abo…

I'm glad someone else thinks the same way about Microsoft I do. Its future might not be as bright as its present, though..

Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by makthrow »

jetz wrote: post #21

First wave of SNs were aimed at dating as the lure (Friendster). Second wave of SNs were/are aimed at social sharing of everything and anything with everybody and anybody (FB). Third wave of SNs are aimed/will be aimed at "real" social sharing of everything and anything with only people you choose (Tusulog.com, our start-up). We're focused on one main thought: you don't, by default, socialize with all your friends pl…

Can I hear the story/reasoning behind how you chose your name? And how do you pronounce "Tusulog" ?

Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by kalid »

zaidf wrote: post #82

Facebook's biggest blunder could be their continued focus on increasing engagement at the expense of giving more granular privacy options. There is no reason I should not be able to maintain all my different identities--as an employee, as a friend, as a son--on facebook. With the influx of my younger cousins and older family members, I had to pick my facebook identity. Now, I play it a lot more safe and don't post ha…

Exactly -- facebook has turned into a giant, semi-awkward graduation party (here is your life!) where you can't really speak your mind.

Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by dkersten »

bxr wrote: post #39
JonnieCache wrote: post #3

This is borne out by my experience. A slowly increasing number of my friends are cutting down their use, and eventually leaving. This might just be due to my cohort of friends getting older, but the article claims it is a general trend. What is definitely true, is that nobody I know feels anything positive about facebook, at all. It is seen simply as a sinister, addictive[1] necessary evil. This is the case regardles…

A slowly increasing number of my friends are cutting down their use, and eventually leaving. I know what they say about the plural of antidote, but I've personally noticed the same. I use it less, and when I do use it, I notice the people I care about on facebook are using it less too. Everything you say mirrors the response to facebook I've been seeing. Its no longer a toy, its just that thing you have and slowly wo…

I've noticed this as well.

Facebook, to me (others may use features of Facebook I simply don't care about, like the games and apps), is just email done badly, with a big contact list that tells me who my contacts have as contacts, public message board type thing with a little photo hosting mixed in.

Using gmail as an example, nothing facebook does couldn't be done either just as well or better with email: the gmail contact list could be augmented to be a social network - it already almost is and Google have been trying something like this with Buzz. Email is already better as a messaging system than what Facebook could ever hope to do. Mass emails, mailing lists and services like fiesta.cc and we've covered almost all of Facebooks messaging usecases (private, public, mass/event messages). Tack on a Buzz-like public notice board and an RSVP system for events and everything (plus some stuff Facebook is bad at) is covered. Throw flickr or picasa into the mix (or just a more convenient way to email photos to people) and that use case is covered too.

Except that with email, mailing lists, mass email, bcc etc I am put in control of who gets access to what - privacy is under my control.

At least, thats how I see it. YMMV.

Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by jetz »

pnathan wrote: post #58
jetz wrote: post #21

First wave of SNs were aimed at dating as the lure (Friendster). Second wave of SNs were/are aimed at social sharing of everything and anything with everybody and anybody (FB). Third wave of SNs are aimed/will be aimed at "real" social sharing of everything and anything with only people you choose (Tusulog.com, our start-up). We're focused on one main thought: you don't, by default, socialize with all your friends pl…

I went over to Tusulog.com, but I didn't find anything to make me want to use it. :(

Thanks. Our site, as all SNs, are useful only if your friends are there. Classic chicken/egg situation.

If you join and have a few friends over there believe me you'll say "I wish all my friends were here then everything become much easier".

Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by jetz »

makthrow wrote: post #84
jetz wrote: post #21

First wave of SNs were aimed at dating as the lure (Friendster). Second wave of SNs were/are aimed at social sharing of everything and anything with everybody and anybody (FB). Third wave of SNs are aimed/will be aimed at "real" social sharing of everything and anything with only people you choose (Tusulog.com, our start-up). We're focused on one main thought: you don't, by default, socialize with all your friends pl…

Can I hear the story/reasoning behind how you chose your name? And how do you pronounce "Tusulog" ?

It's an word play in Turkish. It's read as it's written.

Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by podperson »

JonnieCache wrote: post #3

This is borne out by my experience. A slowly increasing number of my friends are cutting down their use, and eventually leaving. This might just be due to my cohort of friends getting older, but the article claims it is a general trend. What is definitely true, is that nobody I know feels anything positive about facebook, at all. It is seen simply as a sinister, addictive[1] necessary evil. This is the case regardles…

Twitter seems to be losing steam faster than facebook, which I think is a shame.

(E.g. http://attentionmeter.com/?d1=facebook.com&d2=twitter.co... )

My experience with Twitter (which I use all the time) is that spam is getting worse and worse and Twitter isn't even doing obvious things to fight it.

Facebook is simply built of spam, so that's not an awful comparison, but I think it's hurting Twitter.

Re: The end of Facebook

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Post by protomyth »

narkee wrote: post #50
dreamux wrote: post #6

I'm not the biggest fan of facebook, but this guy is completely unqualified to comment on the intricacies of long-term growth and sustainability in social media... just look at his profile: http://blogs.forbes.com/people/timworstall/ He has nothing to do with the technology industry. Also, he doesn't back up his rhetoric with data... this is an opinion piece and a flaky one at that.

Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.

Asking the dude who stayed at a Holiday Inn how to shutdown the nuclear plant will fail 99.999% of the time.
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