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China’s millennials, Gen Z leading nation away from American culture
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Re: China’s millennials, Gen Z leading nation away from American culture
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree - while the rise of woke and cancel culture in America have affected people's perception of American culture in the last few years (e.g https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/world/europe/france-threa... https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-02-18/u-k-an... ), I think the lack of quality entertainment from Hollywood over the last few years (reboots, superhero movies etc) are a much bigger reason for the r…
The kind of people in France who have negative feelings towards America because of 'woke culture' are not Gen Z or Millenials, but largely conservative or upper class older cohorts, like say the French arts community. The kind of people who think of the US as prudish and would go out and defend Polanski, that kind of stuff. There's no significant difference between young Europeans and young Americans or even young Ch…
I think a big difference simply comes down to relative living standards. If you grew up poor, held back by disastrous policies the American 20th century standard of living sounded amazing: supermarkets full of food, factory workers can buy new cars and TVs (not just elites), the space race and other feats seem amazing if you’re in a country which is struggling to maintain a basic standard of living for everyone.
In the present era, things look a bit different. Most people are living better[1] and there are plenty of people doing quite well domestically to look up to, not to mention that the other side of the comparison has come down a lot as you have e.g. better high speed rail at home and while Americans are still buying tons of cars they’re buying 4WDs to sit in traffic on roads which are years overdue for maintenance so that’s not looking like such a great deal, not to mention that real wages have come down enough to cause problems which are prominently reported. Recognition of the problems poor/non-white Americans face is similarly going to be well reported. The expensive, pointless debacle in the Middle East gave a lot of ammunition to anyone saying our government wasn’t as good as claimed and 4 years of Trump poured gasoline on that particular fire, especially with the pandemic spotlighting basic failures of the government to protect its citizens.
China’s government hasn’t exactly forgone the opportunity to tell everyone how much better their system works. If you’re growing up in that world, a lot of the old luster is gone and the inertial weight of basic things like English fluency are going to accelerate that process, too. If it seems like things are getting better it’s pretty easy to put your hopes there.
1. not the Uighyurs but how easy is it to learn about that?
Re: China’s millennials, Gen Z leading nation away from American culture
#23IMHO, I don't think the Chinese gen z, or Chinese of any gens, are leading the nation away from American culture. In a more YC-ish term, the American culture is merely diluted.
2 facts: American blockbusters are still very successful in china, at least the good ones; there are a lot more decent options other than American ones, which was not the case a decade ago. The same can be said with HongKong culture, which used to be the only game in town.
Re: China’s millennials, Gen Z leading nation away from American culture
#24America's millennials, Gen Z are leading America away from American culture. I don't think its surprising to see it in other parts of the world.
If by "away" you mean "back toward it after the Boomers had made a mockery of it", then yes, I agree wholeheartedly.
Re: China’s millennials, Gen Z leading nation away from American culture
#25The Communist Party in China has led an economic boom over the last 40 years absolutely unprecedented in human history. That earned them a ton of credibility with their citizens. You can commit atrocities and few people will care if you also lift 500M people out of crushing poverty. At the same time, Chinese soft cultural offerings like movies and music have gotten decent if not good. Why would they look up to Americ…
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Re: China’s millennials, Gen Z leading nation away from American culture
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree - while the rise of woke and cancel culture in America have affected people's perception of American culture in the last few years (e.g https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/world/europe/france-threa... https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-02-18/u-k-an... ), I think the lack of quality entertainment from Hollywood over the last few years (reboots, superhero movies etc) are a much bigger reason for the r…
You mean the rise the grievance culture and its insecure leader.
No, that's not what umeshunni meant. What's more, unless you fail basic reading comprehension, you know it's not what they meant. But props for the totally transparent attempt at deflection, or whataboutism, or whatever that was...
I absolutely despise that rhetorical trick of pretending that someone was talking about the opposite of what they obviously are. It's both dishonest and transparent, and does nothing to advance real conversation.
Re: China’s millennials, Gen Z leading nation away from American culture
#27The Communist Party in China has led an economic boom over the last 40 years absolutely unprecedented in human history. That earned them a ton of credibility with their citizens. You can commit atrocities and few people will care if you also lift 500M people out of crushing poverty. At the same time, Chinese soft cultural offerings like movies and music have gotten decent if not good. Why would they look up to Americ…
West Taiwan succeeded despite of the CCP.
Besides go travel outside Shenzhen, Shanghai or Beijing. Its an absolute shit hole.
Re: China’s millennials, Gen Z leading nation away from American culture
#28The Communist Party in China has led an economic boom over the last 40 years absolutely unprecedented in human history. That earned them a ton of credibility with their citizens. You can commit atrocities and few people will care if you also lift 500M people out of crushing poverty. At the same time, Chinese soft cultural offerings like movies and music have gotten decent if not good. Why would they look up to Americ…
>The Communist Party in China has led an economic boom over the last 40 years absolutely unprecedented in human history.
Thanks to capitalism and Western democracies. Taiwan and HK accelerated at a speed exceeding the CCP, by decades.
Re: China’s millennials, Gen Z leading nation away from American culture
#29The Communist Party in China has led an economic boom over the last 40 years absolutely unprecedented in human history. That earned them a ton of credibility with their citizens. You can commit atrocities and few people will care if you also lift 500M people out of crushing poverty. At the same time, Chinese soft cultural offerings like movies and music have gotten decent if not good. Why would they look up to Americ…
>The Communist Party in China has led an economic boom over the last 40 years absolutely unprecedented in human history. Thanks to capitalism and Western democracies. Taiwan and HK accelerated at a speed exceeding the CCP, by decades.
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