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Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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It can costs upwards of 200 dollars to mint an NFT, and it's quite common to see artists who have minted several NFTs but not sold anything yet. I'd say the likelihood that poor people are being harmed is quite high.

So you are saying there are "poor people" who are harming themselves (going without food, shelter, medical treatment) because they spent money on minting NFTs? If that's true, I will be more than happy to retract my statement. But I think I have little to worry about.

Sounds like I won't be able to produce any evidence that will satisfy your criteria. I personally consider "tricking people into thinking they'll make lots of money if they spend hundreds of dollars minting NFTs" to be a harmful activity.

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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The Peterson Museum (basically the Louvre of automobiles) did the same -or very close- with wonderful video tours of areas that only paying 150$ would get you to see (The Vault). https://www.youtube.com/user/PetersenMuseum/videos The Seattle flight museum also started a series where the main curator would talk about individual planes in long format, way better experience than looking at photos online. https://www.you…

The museum ship USS New Jersey:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC_Ftxa2jwg8R4IWDw48uyBw

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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Great to have the whole collection but the realizations are very disappointing, barely better than Wikipedia if that. The zoom is a joke. I looked up Napoleon at Eylau which is gigantic painting, about 5 metres by 7. The download version is only 126kb - GTFOH. https://collections.louvre.fr/en/ark:/53355/cl010066486

That is indeed very disappointing. I suppose a lot of these works have been digitised a long time ago, maybe the technology wasn't up to it yet?

Or perhaps they are just worried about forgeries or unauthorised replicas?

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

#205

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>>Hmm? A statement saying that a large government (and likely high taxes) inherently causes a bad outcome doesn't need a long-term graph to be falsified. Scandinavia is sufficient, even much of western Europe on top of that. The bad outcome is a country doing worse than they otherwise would have. You can never prove that happened, because you can't run the experiment twice, so you try to find evidence to make a reaso…

You seriously need to read up on Scandinavian economic history, because you have it exactly backwards and this isn't even something that is disputed. Update: > I throw that advice back at you. You're wildly extrapolating using the already established bad measurement of GDP. Do you believe that social democracies primary concern is increasing GDP per capita? Have the living standards been significantly worse in Scandi…

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Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

#206

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>>Hmm? A statement saying that a large government (and likely high taxes) inherently causes a bad outcome doesn't need a long-term graph to be falsified. Scandinavia is sufficient, even much of western Europe on top of that. The bad outcome is a country doing worse than they otherwise would have. You can never prove that happened, because you can't run the experiment twice, so you try to find evidence to make a reaso…

You seriously need to read up on Scandinavian economic history, because you have it exactly backwards and this isn't even something that is disputed. Update: > I throw that advice back at you. You're wildly extrapolating using the already established bad measurement of GDP. Do you believe that social democracies primary concern is increasing GDP per capita? Have the living standards been significantly worse in Scandi…

>>You're wildly extrapolating using the already established bad measurement of GDP.

GDP is not a bad measure..

I think you're getting overly emotional, and not assessing my points rationally. For example, these counter-examples are not on-point:

>>Do you believe that social democracies primary concern is increasing GDP per capita?

I already argued why they should be: increases in per capita productivity are the primary source of improvements in quality of life.

For example, the reason the Scandinavian region had the highest quality of life in the world by the 1960s, when it had yet to create expansive social programs, is that in the preceding century, it had been the fastest growing economy in the world, with the most free market policies:

http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/San...

• Scandinavia is often cited as having high life expectancy and good health outcomes in areas such as infant mortality. Again, this predates the expansion of the welfare state. In 1960, Norway had the highest life expectancy in the OECD, followed by Sweden, Iceland and Denmark in third, fourth and fifth positions. By 2005, the gap in life expectancy between Scandinavian countries and both the UK and the US had shrunk considerably. Iceland, with a moderately sized welfare sector, has over time outpaced the four major Scandinavian countries in terms of life expectancy and infant mortality.

• Scandinavia’s more equal societies also developed well before the welfare states expanded. Income inequality reduced dramatically during the last three decades of the 19th century and during the first half of the 20th century. Indeed, most of the shift towards greater equality happened before the introduction of a large public sector and high taxes.

Hong Kong and Singapore, the two most free market jurisdictions in the world over the last several decades, have caught up to and surpassed Scandinavia in key measures of quality of life, like life expectancy, despite being far behind them in 1960.

Economic development is the primary source of quality of life gains.

>>Have the living standards been significantly worse in Scandinavia? No, the opposite.

Absolute strawman, that really shows no grasp of what my argument is.

>>It's indisputable that the average Scandinavian citizen has enjoyed very high living standard for the last 80 years or so. Even with very large public sector and high taxes. This blatantly disproves the notion that this is not possible as you suggested above.

I never said it is not possible, so that is a strawman. I said that the rate at which the economy, and with it, quality of life, improves, slows down with marginal increases in the suppression of market rights via top-down regulatory impositions and taxes.

And once again, this is demonstrated by the fact that the more free-market based Hong Kong and Singapore closed a massive economic and quality of life gap with Scandinavian countries since the 1960s, and even surpassed them in some metrics, like life expectancy.

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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I don't plan to go to Paris in the near future due to lack of time but being able to view it online allows me to "wander, ponder, and appreciate" at least to some extent

I don't plan to go to Paris because I don't want to become another victim of the Paris Syndrome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

I was having a good laugh at your link and then I was like.. Uh this is Wikipedia, they don't do jokes.

So this is an actual thing. Lol.

And yeah Paris has its nice areas but like most cities in the world it's also overcrowded (try the RER A at rush hour - pre corona), dirty, has its dark sides, and is suffering greatly from mass-tourism. Most Parisians I know are not very happy. I go there a lot.

Really I think there's much better places to visit, like Barcelona. Which is suffering from the same flaws but I find it a bit more accessible. But visiting Paris for the first time was not a culture shock for me at all. However I grew up 800km from Paris. I suppose someone from a totally different culture on the other side of the world might have an idealised view. Especially if they paid a relative fortune to visit it.

Still... It sounds a bit overblown :P There's many movies that show Paris quite realistically, I don't think anyone truly interested would not pick up on that.

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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They say this month: https://www.immutable.com/blog/design-architecture

Oh, it seems like it's only for their card-trading game? So they're essentially saving themselves money on gas fees? I'm more interested in the fees affecting individual artists. > We’re sprinting towards March 2021. Immutable X alpha release is still expected in March 2021 for Gods Unchained, and coming to other partner games and marketplaces soon after.

Their alpha release only works with one card game, yes. Their platform is going to be open for every one eventually, though I don't know when that is expected to happen.

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

#209

Is there an API to consume it?

Would be nice if they had a web app that would cycle through the entire collection randomly. I have an old purchased Windows app somewhere that has several hundred images of the Louvre collection that I used to view that way on a projection screen. They say search results can be exported as a CSV file, so maybe a search that returns everything would produce a file that be used with a simple script to display all the images.

I tried exporting all the paintings and got a file with about 10,000 lines of this kind of content:

cl010055411;"Une Négresse portée par deux maures";"Desportes, Alexandre-François ; France";"1600 / 1700 (XVIIe siècle)";"INV 3891; B 1739";"Département des Peintures"

cl010052671;"Sainte Famille";"Girolamo del Pacchia ; Italie";"1500 / 1600 (XVIe siècle)";"MNR 827; D 55-7-2";"Département des Peintures"

cl010052673;Cavalier;"Anonyme ; Italie";"1400 / 1500 (XVe siècle)";"MNR 761";"Département des Peintures"

That first number is the catalog number which can dropped into a URL:

https://collections.louvre.fr/en/ark:/53355/cl010055411

Some photos don't seem to exist (like the one above). Should be fairly easy to use curl and a script to pull a copy of the photos and display them though. Possibly they would get upset about someone using a bot to copy/view their entire photo collection, though maybe not if it only downloaded one photo every 5-30 minutes. If lots of people started doing this and didn't save the files locally their bandwidth use could go through the roof. A tag on the end will make the photo fullscreen in a web browser:

https://collections.louvre.fr/en/ark:/53355/cl010208581#full...

So a Javascript app might work well, though it would be nice to fill the computer screen rather than the browser window frame. Maybe I'll write an app and send it to them if I get inspired. Not high on my priority list, but doesn't seem too difficult.

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

#210

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You seriously need to read up on Scandinavian economic history, because you have it exactly backwards and this isn't even something that is disputed. Update: > I throw that advice back at you. You're wildly extrapolating using the already established bad measurement of GDP. Do you believe that social democracies primary concern is increasing GDP per capita? Have the living standards been significantly worse in Scandi…

>>You're wildly extrapolating using the already established bad measurement of GDP. GDP is not a bad measure.. I think you're getting overly emotional, and not assessing my points rationally. For example, these counter-examples are not on-point: >>Do you believe that social democracies primary concern is increasing GDP per capita? I already argued why they should be: increases in per capita productivity are the prima…

> increases in per capita productivity are the primary source of improvements in quality of life

That would suggest that the median US citizens enjoys a much higher living standard and quality of life than a Sweden, this is not the case.

No amount of historical revisionism by neo-liberal think tanks can repaint the success of Scandinavian Social Democracy as a Free Market success.

It's frankly pathetic to even attempt it, you're just clutching at straws with wild connections, I mean look at these statements:

> By 2005, the gap in life expectancy between Scandinavian countries and both the UK and the US had shrunk considerably. Iceland, with a moderately sized welfare sector, has over time outpaced the four major Scandinavian countries in terms of life expectancy and infant mortality.

You must understand that it's easier to improve from a low point than to creep closer to 100%? Also, Sweden have gone through a neo-liberal free market privatization free-for-all since the 1990, this has naturally caused inequality to soar, which is the usual cause of things like unequal access care.

> Hong Kong and Singapore, the two most free market jurisdictions in the world over the last several decades, have caught up to and surpassed Scandinavia in key measures of quality of life, like life expectancy, despite being far behind them in 1960.

Once again, of course? They have started from a lower under-developed starting point? Also, looking at the actual rankings:

2. Denmark

4. Finland

7. Iceland

10. Norway

13. Sweden

16. United States

34. Singapore

71. Hong Kong

What's even your point? Still looks pretty good for Scandinavian countries, don't it? Seems like staunch free market focus is not required to me.

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