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How can you tell if someone is lying?
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Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?
#262They publish an article in the atlantic.com
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#263> U.K. police, who regularly use sketching interviews and work with psychology researchers as part of the nation’s switch to non-guilt-assumptive questioning, which officially replaced accusation-style interrogations in the 1980s and 1990s after scandals involving wrongful conviction and abuse.
I wonder if this explains a trope I notice in British detective TV shows but not in American ones. Writers have the fictional detectives speculatively throwing around accusations whenever they have a vaguely plausible guess as to what might have happened. Apparently in the hopes that it will scare the accused into confessing right then and there.
Ten minutes into the investigation, and based on no evidence, the detective will say something like, "You were in love with your best friend's husband, weren't you? You wanted him for yourself, and jealousy is the reason that you killed her, isn't it?" And the just-accused person will reply, "Hardly. It's well known among all of us that I felt he was a terrible husband and encouraged her to leave him." And then both will continue on as if all that was no big deal and you can't fault the detective for asking.
Was this once a real technique, and now there's a cultural perception of it still lingering? I'm sure fictional portrayals are inaccurate everywhere, but this particular thing seems unique to British shows.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article shows neurotypical people should have the same concerns. Interogators who think they know how to spot lying are usually wrong, regardless of whether they are interviewing neurotypical people or people on the spectrum. I'm not on the spectrum, but I was a rebellious kid who didn't like to take shit from teachers. My defiant and sarcastic reactions to accusations were often considered evidence that I'd done…
Well to be fair, even if you weren’t in the wrong at first, a sarcastic response to a teacher does put you in the wrong...
Well to be fair, you shouldn't accuse someone of something they aren't, or something they didn't do.
For instance, it'd be incredibly unfair for me to accuse you of being a jackass for a comment like this, when I know nothing about you... it'd also be equally unfair for me to assume you're an authoritarian... because I don't know anything about you, and therefore have no reason to make such an assumption.
Sort of like the teachers in the prior comments.
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#265Most of us can’t reliably tell when a romantic interest is actively signaling their mutual interest. If we can’t get cooperative activities right, most of us don’t have a chance to spot a liar through nonverbal cues. The fact is that random effects are huge when dealing with people. Is that person you’re interrogating not showing emotion because they’re a psychopath, or because they were taught not to display emotion…
There’s an interesting take[0] on defensive mechanisms societies have apparently evolved in order to detect a psychopath in their midst in daily life without having to know that person for a long time. [0] https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2016/05/05/dares-costly-signals-a... on dares and costly signals, also discussing The Psychopath Code by late Pieter Hintjens.
What? The zeromq guy died?
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not impressed so much as dismayed. My theory is that it is warfare by decentralized means, worked through witting and unwitting subjects. In other words, there are a bunch of people whose job it is to keep the enemies of their country in mask denialism and maximum COVID infection as deeply as possible, and it's primarily done through social media. And while it's useful in a sense to put forth such intentions whil…
I’m both impressed and dismayed that both of your comments don’t do a single thing to refute mask denialism, specifically whatever his point is on Sweden and Germany. I don’t even believe his comment, but I’m not going to sneer at it and call it mask denialism to shut it down. I feel better about his comment at least attempting to state an argument and evidence in support of it. Anyway, this is a strange tangent for…
He was using the equivalent of a Facebook infographic to "prove" that epidemiologists are wrong.
His type believes that scientists are part of a cabal that is lying to the public for nefarious reasons.
I won't say that he himself is deranged, but his thought pattern on this issue is.
Anyhow, for those who believe in science: https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118
Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?
#267David Simon's book, Homicide, has an apropos section: """Terry McLarney once mused that the best way to unsettle a suspect would be to post in all three interrogation rooms a written list of those behavior patterns that indicate deception: Uncooperative. Too cooperative. Talks too much. Talks too little. Gets his story perfectly straight. Fucks his story up. Blinks too much, avoids eye contact. Doesn’t blink. Stares.…
Luckily, there is this one reliable method for detecting a lie, checking whether what the suspect says is true.
That means making personal observations and/or consulting various witnesses and authorities.
Now convenience and reliability are issues. Also maybe intelligibility.
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#268It’s impossible...
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#269>> Psychologists have long known how hard it is to spot a liar. Absolutely this. Lying is a loose concept. Is it lying if I believe it is true? Is it lying if it's just an omission of truth? You can spot nervousness, you can spot defiance. I work in a field where people deceive almost 80% of the time, and less than 1 in 10 where caught. The way we approach this is by flanking. Using falsifiable questions the subject…
Out of curiosity, what field is that?
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#270This is just silly pseudoscience, new-age BS if you ask me. The only scientifically proven way of knowing if someone is a liar is to examine the shape and bumps of their skull.
> The only scientifically proven way of knowing if someone is a liar is to examine the shape and bumps of their skull. The only proven way of knowing if someone is a liar is to get evidence.
I question your skull-bulges, sir.