Is there a basis for the positive bias towards Asians and women here? If I have to follow the logic of a lot of statements in this thread perhaps VCs show a positive bias due to experience (better returns)? See https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/allysonkap...
Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
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Re: Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
#82From abstract: ” Female entrepreneurs received 9% more interested replies than males pitching identical projects and Asians received 6% more than Whites. Our results suggest that investors do not discriminate against female or Asian entrepreneurs when evaluating unsolicited pitch emails and that future research on investor biases should focus on networks and in-person interactions.” In other words: The preferred resu…
I didn’t see any mention of it in the study but I’d hazard a guess that most VCs are heterosexual men and that might be a factor in an initial preference for women’s pitches, other things being equal.
Still, as most men are straight, this confirms that women have an unfair advantage.
Re: Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
#83This is not surprising to me. For all I've seen "non-white non-male" is generally given priority in all kinds of areas, certainly in start-up interest. It's considered "hip" to associate with these "non-white non-male" groups, irregardless of their actual performance in whatever area they were prioritized. (To a certain extent at least, they can't be completely nonperforming) Being able to show that you have included…
I think there are other options besides 1 and 2. For example, 3) non-white non-males experience different cultural pressures (or a different culture altogether) and have different expectations set by their family/peers/selves and and their careers when it comes time to work towards a profession.
Re: Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
#84This is not surprising to me. For all I've seen "non-white non-male" is generally given priority in all kinds of areas, certainly in start-up interest. It's considered "hip" to associate with these "non-white non-male" groups, irregardless of their actual performance in whatever area they were prioritized. (To a certain extent at least, they can't be completely nonperforming) Being able to show that you have included…
What is your basis for "white guys outperform other groups" in this specific scenario (entrepreneurship)? Perhaps VCs know that women and Asians outperform white guys and hence this bias.
Are you sure that's the cause of the bias?
Re: Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
#85Many similar studies have been done and almost always destroy the leftists dogmas about X, Y or Z being oppressed.
Belonging to a minority actually appears to boost your chances of being hired (shown by studies leaving, or hiding, the name of the applicants). Being a women in a company with a boss, reduces the gender paygap compared to what it is for freelancers: the more women are on their own (dentists, baker, founder of a sport's club, etc...), the bigger the gap compared to the male dentists, bakers, founders of sport's club... An interesting fact which leaves a lot of leftists in error 500 mode.
Re: Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
#86Same thing with job applications: "In an attempt to increase workplace diversity, the Australian public service implemented a .. trial removing all mention of gender and ethnicity from applications. It was found that removing gender from thousands of applications made women less likely to advance through the recruitment process compared to cases where gender was visible. The trial found that a woman's name on an appl…
no, we are need to allow people who have desiers to come here 4 good life n success, no filter for sex. in India IIT is 64% man, so you are only penalise unfair men by these action. we are needing to let almost any person who want to be in America to be here not have a nother restricting.
Re: Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
#87From abstract: ” Female entrepreneurs received 9% more interested replies than males pitching identical projects and Asians received 6% more than Whites. Our results suggest that investors do not discriminate against female or Asian entrepreneurs when evaluating unsolicited pitch emails and that future research on investor biases should focus on networks and in-person interactions.” In other words: The preferred resu…
> The preferred results were not found (females are oppressed) so we ignore wrong-think results (males seem to be) It's true that any discrimination in favour of one group would be discrimination against the opposite. But as a middle-class white guy at a big tech company, whose boss is a middle class white guy whose boss is a middle class white guy whose boss is a middle class white guy whose boss is a middle class w…
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Re: Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> yet don't point this out and suggest that we should look for negative female/asian bias elsewhere I’m confused, the study does suggest we look for anti-female bias elsewhere. Indeed, the authors seem to argue that it must exist elsewhere, and more powerfully so in order to explain the gender gap.
I think the point is that there is a bias against males and white reducing the the chance of equity of opportunity, and this seem to be because the focus is consistently on equality of outcome.
I agree with that broadly. I was just confused by the claim I quoted above.
Re: Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
"It’s interesting that they don’t entertain the possibility that the gap might be caused by something other than bias" Imagine a medicinal study that would concentrate on the hypothesis that sinners get cholera as a divine retribution for their sinful lives, and would not even entertain other possible causes, such as ... dirty drinking water. We would rightly locate such a study into, say, 1840, but definitely not 20…
> We would rightly locate such a study into, say, 1840, but definitely not 2021. You give far too little credit to 1840 and far too much to 2021.
Look up 1854 Broad Street cholera outbreak. That was when the scientific breakthrough regarding bad water took place - and many actually refused to accept the results.
Before that, the most "scientific" theory about cholera outbreaks was the miasma theory, but religious and pseudoreligious beliefs about divine punishment or influence of the stars were not fringe yet.
Re: Gender, race, and entrepreneurship: A randomized field experiment on investors
#90Many similar studies have been done and almost always destroy the leftists dogmas about X, Y or Z being oppressed. Belonging to a minority actually appears to boost your chances of being hired (shown by studies leaving, or hiding, the name of the applicants). Being a women in a company with a boss, reduces the gender paygap compared to what it is for freelancers: the more women are on their own (dentists, baker, foun…
> ... destroy the leftists dogmas ...
Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.