Seems you really need better filtering tech to keep off the information that is offensive to you. Limiting the amount of information is good how?
Hacker News Job Board?
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#22"Have at least 200 karma or have been an HN member for more than 2 years" this is too restrictive.
I think if anything, it's not restrictive enough. The idea is that HN acts as a community filter for membership, and 200 is really not much for an active member of the community.
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#23I'd welcome such a job board. And it would be wonderful if it won't be just for permanent jobs, but also for contractor jobs.
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#24"Have at least 200 karma or have been an HN member for more than 2 years" this is too restrictive.
I think if anything, it's not restrictive enough. The idea is that HN acts as a community filter for membership, and 200 is really not much for an active member of the community.
What value would you suggest?
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#25"Have at least 200 karma or have been an HN member for more than 2 years" this is too restrictive.
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#26What's the thinking on the limitations? Is this just supposed to make the users think they are part of an elite bunch? Are the employers supposed to think that somehow selects only elite hackers?
The biggest problem with job boards is... recruiters. The idea here is that members in good-standing of the HN community are unlikely to be recruiters and thus can be trusted to freely post jobs to the board. If it was open to anyone then it would be flooded with crap immediately.
Incase anyone reading this isn't convinced that recruiters really are the biggest problem with jobs boards you could check out Tobin Harris' write up of his experiences here http://wip.engineroomapps.com/post/3927805265/hiring-without...
For my part, recently I was in conversation with a friend who'd advertised a role themselves. They were getting calls from recruiters saying unless they took their candidates through them they would actively contact those candidates and tell them not to apply. They said they would tell the candidates that they'd already put them forward and not to bother applying. Jobs Boards without recruiters can I think benefit candidates and employers. The only people who wouldn't benefit would be the recruiters
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#27> Would people use this? I definitely would have when my company was looking for a programmer a month or so ago, and would use it the next time we want to hire someone.
And, additionally, if nobody uses it.. It's just the work of shutting it down. No big harm made.
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#29HN karma would be a great metric for vetting experience and track-record. It's one of the trickiest things when trying to hire above-average talent.
May I recommend using jobberBase (http://www.jobberbase.com) as a platform? Also open-source, with a great community around it.
Disclaimer: I've built jobberBase, so I'm biased :).
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm an abrupt person and things come out bluntly sometimes. I haven't made up my mind if it's a good or bad idea, I'm just trying to figure out the reasoning behind it.
I'm an abrupt person and things come out bluntly sometimes. It came out as more than abrupt - it came out as positively agressive. At least to me it did. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of that, and chose either to "be yourself" or to try to be less, well, abrupt. Being honest and diplomatic can be hard work, but personally I've found it rewarding.
He said it, but I was thinking the same. Why exclusive? Up until very recently I was at a company that was going through the hiring process, and the people tasked with administering the entrance exams were positively dripping with disrespect for all applicants that came through the doors.
They joked about hazing them and returned from virtually all sessions with words like "moron", "idiot" and "numbnuts" on their lips. Prases like "how could he ever think he was good enough to work here... or anywhere?" weren't uncommon.
Regardless of any other aspects of an interviewee's performance on a series of arbitrary test questions (which we all know often don't measure what the administrators think they measuring), all interviewees deserve respect.
I'm not saying the original poster had this in mind in any way, but bad attitude in hiring is pervasive among developers.
I'll admit my reaction on reading it was probably a bit knee-jerk. When I see the hints of "we only hire the best" in my head I translate that into silly semi subtle hazing rituals that ignore the person and rely on arbitrary measures rather than examining the quality of the person themselves.
Think why PG always says 'we invest more in the people than the product'.
Anyways, no harm done. An HN community JobBoard is (IMO) a pretty good idea. I don't think the YC one is really worth looking at, but one that serves the wider community might be good.