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How can you tell if someone is lying?

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Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?

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post #95

I wonder if there was a reliable method to spot lying if efforts would be made to keep it secret in the same way that broken ciphers are.

A non-invasive lie detection method would completely change our society, whoever has it, keeps it to themselves.

Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?

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It's always about probing for consistency, congruence, and naturalness. You're never going to be able to spot every lie every time, only individual lies. For example, most women and a few men are able to act improv, that is lie fluidly without hesitation. It's only if you know directly what they're saying isn't true or after asking deeper questions that it becomes apparent if they don't know what they're talking about or begin to contradict themselves.

As my grandmother used to say: "One lie leads to another. Tell the truth because lying is too much work." I would also add that getting caught lying severely destroys trust and so isn't conducive to society either.

Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?

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If it is a politician, you will know as soon their lips are moving /s On a serious note, there is no way to know on a sophisticated liar, and there are 1000 tell tales on a bad liar.

Immagine there was a non invasive method to detect lies.

Presidential debates would be interesting. If we still had such debates or presidential elections after that :)

Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a book, by Malcolm Gladwell. The comment said the audiobook is like a good podcast.

If it's a book by Malcolm Gladwell, I can't anti-recommend it enough. All of the Malcolm Gladwell books I've read have been tripe. Unless he has radically improved his writing and grasp of nuance in the last decade (and published retractions of his earlier books), his books are dangerous anti-knowledge which will make you feel smarter but actually be dumber. Gladwell takes an obvious, folksy thing, adds a bit of a tw…

Well, I'm pleased to read this. I say that as someone who fell for the schtick, and he made a couple of sales out of me.

He tells a decent story, and you feel like you've learn something after reading him. Scratch below the surface, and it turns out you haven't.

Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?

#106

"The slickest way in the world to lie is to tell the right amount of truth at the right time -- and then shut up." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Yes, the best lies are based mostly in truth with a key substitution. And, it is a novice's mistake to keep babbling. The best liars are the ones who must do so their entire lives in order to survive.

To be honest, I do the opposite: I intentionally play with random people by telling them truths in a manner that comes across as lying.

Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a book, by Malcolm Gladwell. The comment said the audiobook is like a good podcast.

If it's a book by Malcolm Gladwell, I can't anti-recommend it enough. All of the Malcolm Gladwell books I've read have been tripe. Unless he has radically improved his writing and grasp of nuance in the last decade (and published retractions of his earlier books), his books are dangerous anti-knowledge which will make you feel smarter but actually be dumber. Gladwell takes an obvious, folksy thing, adds a bit of a tw…

Someone here used this brilliant phrase: "Insight Porn"

Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a book, by Malcolm Gladwell. The comment said the audiobook is like a good podcast.

If it's a book by Malcolm Gladwell, I can't anti-recommend it enough. All of the Malcolm Gladwell books I've read have been tripe. Unless he has radically improved his writing and grasp of nuance in the last decade (and published retractions of his earlier books), his books are dangerous anti-knowledge which will make you feel smarter but actually be dumber. Gladwell takes an obvious, folksy thing, adds a bit of a tw…

When studying sculpture a tutor talked to me about people making “things that look like art”, which really stuck with me - they made objects that mimicked what they thought art should be like, but had a kind of conceptual hollowness. I think Malcolm Gladwell is similar in that he produces content that has the appearance of science, but once you start digging it doesn’t hold up. A bit like a version of “truthiness”, except that in his case it’s “scienciness”.

Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?

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Most of us can’t reliably tell when a romantic interest is actively signaling their mutual interest. If we can’t get cooperative activities right, most of us don’t have a chance to spot a liar through nonverbal cues. The fact is that random effects are huge when dealing with people. Is that person you’re interrogating not showing emotion because they’re a psychopath, or because they were taught not to display emotion…

The people who study lying the most are the ones who counter it for a living: police, interrogators, investigators, and business people.

Re: How can you tell if someone is lying?

#110
post #98

David Simon's book, Homicide, has an apropos section: """Terry McLarney once mused that the best way to unsettle a suspect would be to post in all three interrogation rooms a written list of those behavior patterns that indicate deception: Uncooperative. Too cooperative. Talks too much. Talks too little. Gets his story perfectly straight. Fucks his story up. Blinks too much, avoids eye contact. Doesn’t blink. Stares.…

I'd like to see some hot-shot detective try to get a random number from 1-1000 out of my head by using those techniques. Yeah, he couldn't.

You might want to watch this in full before gambling on that: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

In summary, you lose the moment you agree to talk.

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