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China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton

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Re: China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton

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I didn't read the article because it's behind a paywall, but I was wondering, is the Chinese market that much of a deal for Western companies given selling things in China is much harder than the other way around?

Wanna be middle class people in CN buy fake Western brands, people who have money buy the actual Euro brands. It's their biggest market.

But the brands pushed themselves into a conundrum, they have statements against exploitation and treating people with dignity, etc., and on the other hand they turn a blind eye to the cheap (forced) labor in western China and enjoy the nice profits from the cities in Eastern China. So they ignore their supposed convictions.

Re: China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton

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Is there a list of these companies somewhere past the paywall? It would be nice to have one, so I know what to buy.

H&M, Burberry, and Nike were the ones I remember. But the article said the companies are kind of being half-assed about it, because they say they talk about only wanting ethically sourced cotton, but aren't willing to actually say they don't support what the Chinese government is doing.

Re: China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton

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Is there a list of these companies somewhere past the paywall? It would be nice to have one, so I know what to buy.

> An online mob besieged H&M and other brands, including Nike, Uniqlo and Adidas, demanding they retract past statements about Xinjiang if they expect to make money in China.

Re: China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton

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Is there a list of these companies somewhere past the paywall? It would be nice to have one, so I know what to buy.

> On March 24th the Communist Youth League, a party affiliate, whipped up a nationalist online boycott of H&M, digging up a months-old statement on the Swedish garment-maker’s corporate website expressing concerns about reports of forced labour in Xinjiang. Government officials and state media joined in. An online mob besieged H&M and other brands, including Nike, Uniqlo and Adidas, demanding they retract past statements about Xinjiang if they expect to make money in China.

> Multiple Chinese celebrities publicly renounced brands they had endorsed but which have stuck by earlier statements about Xinjiang (or not indicated any change). These include H&M, as well as Adidas, Nike, Puma and Uniqlo. Zhou Dongyu, an actress, dropped her deal with Burberry because she said the British maker of posh trench-coats, a member of the Better Cotton Initiative (BCI), a due-diligence consortium, had not “clearly and publicly stated its stance on cotton from Xinjiang”

> Several apparel firms, including Muji, Fila China and the Chinese operation of Hugo Boss, gave testimonials on Chinese social media that they support Xinjiang cotton (all three of those companies have also issued statements from corporate headquarters acknowledging concerns about allegations of forced labour in Xinjiang).

> Other firms have apparently taken down earlier statements about Xinjiang. They include PVH, which owns Calvin Klein, and Inditex, which owns Zara, among other brands.

Re: China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton

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I didn't read the article because it's behind a paywall, but I was wondering, is the Chinese market that much of a deal for Western companies given selling things in China is much harder than the other way around?

There's no paywall? Maybe for the US? Nothing for me from Scandinavia.

It is a big deal. One brand mentioned had 520 shops in China. I don't see how things are harder to sell. The article even mentions that covid cause a decline in sales but the higher sales in China can offset it for some (Hugo boss I think was the example).

Re: China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton

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With regards to Xinjiang sanctions, China has also

- sanctioned US/Canadian/UK/EU individuals and entities

- erased H&M in all major Chinese platforms https://wwd.com/business-news/retail/hm-face-new-boycott-chi...

While that's happening, China has also

- signed a 25-year cooperation agreement with Iran

- censored 'stock market' term from social media searches after stocks posted longest losing streak https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/china-banned...

- attacked US in the high-level Alaska talks, saying "black Americans are being slaughtered" while adding 'We will always stand up for our principles for our people' https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56452471

- parked hundreds of ships near a reef in order to possibly build more artificial islands https://www.npr.org/2021/03/26/981668318/chinese-ship-deploy...

My take: a dictatorship running scared on a declining economy, with enemies surrouding it and around the world, needs to bark loud and ramp up its military. it will either fade away into isolation, or it will do something stupid like attack Taiwan, whose missile capabilities can hit Beijing and three gorges and basically collapse China, and get sanctioned by countries worldwide, and fade away into oblivion

Re: China boycotts Western clothes brands over Xinjiang cotton

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post #4

I didn't read the article because it's behind a paywall, but I was wondering, is the Chinese market that much of a deal for Western companies given selling things in China is much harder than the other way around?

Wanna be middle class people in CN buy fake Western brands, people who have money buy the actual Euro brands. It's their biggest market. But the brands pushed themselves into a conundrum, they have statements against exploitation and treating people with dignity, etc., and on the other hand they turn a blind eye to the cheap (forced) labor in western China and enjoy the nice profits from the cities in Eastern China.…

This is interesting, cause China has just become Europe's num 1 trading partner. Seems just like another US/China trade war escalating.
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