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Due to the one child policy, China is going to experience a demographic collapse this decade as more people retire than are available to replace them in the workforce. So the 2020s is the pivotal decade as China nears the height of its power. The CCP is aware of this and knows that if they are ever going to take Taiwan, it would ideally be this decade. Politically, it will also need a victory as the Chinese economy i…

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> We can only hope for a diplomatic resolution That makes it seem like you want China to take Taiwan uncontested. I hope for either no conflict at all, or for Taiwan's allies to help defend it.

>"That makes it seem like you want China to take Taiwan uncontested." I, like any sane person, would like to avoid WWIII. It's easy to play armchair general with no skin in the game. But the reality is that there would be no support in the US for sending American soldiers to die for Taiwan. Let alone the nuclear ramifications. If Beijing decides to take it, we will sit here and watch. The same way we do currently as…

I think the United States could mobilize gamers to go to war for TSMC and Taiwan

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Which intentional treaty denied Taiwan being part of China? BTW, it's totally fine for people living on the Taiwan island to form an independent country, like what Jewish people did. But please, do not annex my home country's sovereign land.

Is not censoring the word 'Taiwan' or allowing its flag equivalent to annexation of another nation's land? Forgive my ignorance but wasn't modern Taiwan founded by the remnants of the Chinese republic that preceded the CCP. If so wouldn't the burden be citing an international treaty recognizing the CCP as the government of Taiwan?

Every significant international teary recognize the CCP government, otherwise they won't even be a nation...

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The solution is simple, give Taiwan nukes.

I think Taiwan, one of the most technologically advanced nations in the world, could make their own nukes if they wanted them.

Taiwan did have a nuke program until the 80s(?). Of course starting to finalize a nuke program next to a nuclear power that doesn't like you sounds like a surefire way of forcing a decision now if you get caught.

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>"That makes it seem like you want China to take Taiwan uncontested." I, like any sane person, would like to avoid WWIII. It's easy to play armchair general with no skin in the game. But the reality is that there would be no support in the US for sending American soldiers to die for Taiwan. Let alone the nuclear ramifications. If Beijing decides to take it, we will sit here and watch. The same way we do currently as…

I believe there would be strong domestic support in the US for committing the full strength of the US military to Taiwan’s defense. It’s not sending American soldiers to die for for Taiwan, its sending American soldiers to fight for western values and allies that America is legally obligated to defend.

There is no legal obligation to defend Taiwan. And all obligations are as good as nothing until there is an enforcement present. Good luck trying to enforce US.

>"fight for western values" - you mean risking WWIII to make sure that few fat cats do not loose their investments? How's that protection of western values went in places like Yemen?

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I would imagine that one of the biggest concerns associated with China taking over Taiwan is that China would gain control over some of the most significant semiconductor manufacturing facilities in the world.

Someone mentioned in an earlier discussion here without sources that the TSMC is rigged to blow in case of such an event.

Well, some public here tend to think about TSMC as something solid and uniform, one can possess and/or takeover. Heck, no! TSMC is a complex organism consisting of thousands of talented engineers and scientists, top-notch equipment that require servicing, thousands of suppliers, software and IP modules bound by licensing and servicing agreements with hundreds of western companies. A faint hint of military action around Taiwan will ruin TSMC in a second, which by the way will have far far extending chain of events effecting the global high-tech industry. And I bet it's going to be far worse than covid-19 pandemic we are currently facing. The world we built is way too fragile. We must negotiate, not to fight, if we want to get going.

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One obvious reason to support the British is that the British don't have slavery. Sure enough, those slaves who fought for the British and were evacuated with British troops became free men. Fighting for the colonists genuinely could mean you won, and then they said that's great, now back to the fields 'cos you won freedom for us not for you. Your great grandchildren might see freedom (after the Civil War) but you wo…

I'm not sure what history books you are reading, but Britain did, in fact, have slavery, and traded in slaves during the American Revolution. Trade of slaves was not outlawed in Britain until 1807 and ownership of slaves was not outlawed in Britain until 1833.

History books about things that happened rather than, say, squinting hard to rationalise unhappy truths?

Britain didn't have slavery†. The 1833 act abolishes slavery in the Colonies, not in Britain itself. The existence of slavery in the colonies is why there were slaves in America to seek freedom by fighting for the British there.

So like I said, the British freed those on their side, while the colonists unsurprisingly did not do likewise. This is a recorded motivation for the thing we're talking about, fighting for the British in the revolutionary war.

†Britain didn't have chattel slavery, which is what we're talking about here, but it did have serfdom - which today we would consider a type of slavery - until the late middle ages or so when it ceased to make economic sense.

Re: U.S. fears China attack on Taiwan

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Fun fact: satellite photos of China's largest military base show that it contains a detailed, lifesize replica of a part of downtown Taipei including the presidential palace. I wonder what the soldiers on that base might be training for?

They also have Eiffel tower. Probably not because they want to invade France.

Re: U.S. fears China attack on Taiwan

#180

Due to the one child policy, China is going to experience a demographic collapse this decade as more people retire than are available to replace them in the workforce. So the 2020s is the pivotal decade as China nears the height of its power. The CCP is aware of this and knows that if they are ever going to take Taiwan, it would ideally be this decade. Politically, it will also need a victory as the Chinese economy i…

The solution is simple, give Taiwan nukes.

That sounds like a really bad idea.
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