Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anecdotal, but I lived in Taiwan for several years and never met anyone who was even remotely pro-CCP.
Just like you won't see any trump supporters, pun intended, right?
What's the pun here?
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#102All the American companies that choose to censor the word Taiwan and call it part of China are directly complicit with this. No rational person in a position of responsibility could have thought that this wasn’t the long term intention
Not even the American government officially recognizes Taiwan as a sovereign nation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%E2%80%93United_States...
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#103If you're to follow local media in China, the rhetoric around taking back Taiwan has grown stronger. Winnie the pooh also got a time limit extension on CCP leadership on the platform of a fully unified China. The signs are all there, though I just don't see how anything resembling a conventional warfare can happen there. The potential lives at risk are quite high and if the toll is that high it will be difficult to s…
The anti-China rhetoric and propaganda in the USA has been steadily ramping up over the last 3-5 years as well, for better or worse. I don't think this is an accident or happenstance. If China decided to take Taiwan in a small and local (and, let's be honest: extremely quick) action, there would be broad domestic support in the US for the US interfering.
Possibly. It would take a strong economic interest for the US government to do anything. Losing TSMC to China might be enough. We live in interesting times.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which intentional treaty denied Taiwan being part of China? BTW, it's totally fine for people living on the Taiwan island to form an independent country, like what Jewish people did. But please, do not annex my home country's sovereign land.
Sorry bud, but didn't Taiwan lose China; not the other way around? If anything, Taiwan has a claim on China as sovereign land. This is Stupid, yes, but but it would (very roughly) be like if in 1066 the Normans had lost -- and then they kept claiming "Britain is ours!" Years later. Uhhh... No. Britain would be the Anglo-Saxon's. No question. Call me out if my logic is off -- but this seems more reasonable at a glance…
It would be accurate if the UK today were claiming northern France as an integral part of England.
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#105All the American companies that choose to censor the word Taiwan and call it part of China are directly complicit with this. No rational person in a position of responsibility could have thought that this wasn’t the long term intention
Which intentional treaty denied Taiwan being part of China? BTW, it's totally fine for people living on the Taiwan island to form an independent country, like what Jewish people did. But please, do not annex my home country's sovereign land.
Is not censoring the word 'Taiwan' or allowing its flag equivalent to annexation of another nation's land?
Forgive my ignorance but wasn't modern Taiwan founded by the remnants of the Chinese republic that preceded the CCP. If so wouldn't the burden be citing an international treaty recognizing the CCP as the government of Taiwan?
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We can only hope for a diplomatic resolution That makes it seem like you want China to take Taiwan uncontested. I hope for either no conflict at all, or for Taiwan's allies to help defend it.
>"That makes it seem like you want China to take Taiwan uncontested." I, like any sane person, would like to avoid WWIII. It's easy to play armchair general with no skin in the game. But the reality is that there would be no support in the US for sending American soldiers to die for Taiwan. Let alone the nuclear ramifications. If Beijing decides to take it, we will sit here and watch. The same way we do currently as…
> no support in the US for sending American soldiers to die for Taiwan
There could also be support in the US for keeping China from expanding its power to the point where it can rival the US. That is, fighting against China rather than for Taiwan.
I'm not saying that would necessarily be enough either, but people are more willing to die to protect their own country's interests than to help someone else.
EDIT: Not sure of the reason for downvotes. I'm not advocating for this. I'm just saying it is something that could happen. To the extent that American soldiers went to Korea and Vietnam willingly, it wasn't because they wanted to help the people there. It was because they wanted to stop the USSR.
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#107Does North Korea get emboldened to invade South if this happens? What other chips fall?
I doubt it. North Korea doesn't have the military or the economy to do this. The story I read is China provides North Korea enough support so there isn't a refugee crisis, but that's it. North Korea is a thorn in everyone's side, and they're all happy to maintain the status quo.
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#108I would imagine that one of the biggest concerns associated with China taking over Taiwan is that China would gain control over some of the most significant semiconductor manufacturing facilities in the world.
Yeah, but I imagine in such a scenario most of the talent that built that world-class semiconductor manufacturing would be resettled to Western Powers - most likely the United States.
China will invade Taiwan, seize their IP, and then approve exit visas for the best scientists/engineers from the conquered country? Seems pretty unlikely.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
The anti-China rhetoric and propaganda in the USA has been steadily ramping up over the last 3-5 years as well, for better or worse. I don't think this is an accident or happenstance. If China decided to take Taiwan in a small and local (and, let's be honest: extremely quick) action, there would be broad domestic support in the US for the US interfering.
> The anti-China rhetoric and propaganda in the USA has been steadily ramping up over the last 3-5 years as well, for better or worse. I don't think this is an accident or happenstance. Yeah, it's really strange that negative rhetoric has been ramping up against a government that is now running full-blown ethnic concentration camps in Xinjiang, is flagrantly stomping on the democratic rights of the people of Hong Kon…
It appears to have worked well for its intended purpose.
For the record, the US imprisons its ethnic minorities in inhumane conditions (including labor camps and forced sterilization, just like China) at a per-capita rate 17x higher than China does.
I think the disparity in public perception (in the US; I can't speak to China as I'm not there) of the two superpowers is telling.
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#110All the American companies that choose to censor the word Taiwan and call it part of China are directly complicit with this. No rational person in a position of responsibility could have thought that this wasn’t the long term intention
Are you high or something? Last time I checked Taiwan is not a member of the U.N. and the United States does not recognize Taiwan as a country.