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French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by hombre_fatal »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #65
seanwilson wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either way, a typical female dairy cow during its lifetime is made to give birth about 4 times (they don't give milk otherwise), each time its baby is taken away so maximum milk can be harvested and then the mother is killed about 5 years into its 20 year lifespan when it stops producing as much milk. This is the reality of profitable dairy farming and people don't like to be told about it or think about it. If you t…

You've convinced me. I no longer care that some countries kill dolphins or whales or cats or whatever for food and foxes for fur.

I hope you don’t think you’re pwning them by repeating their point back to them thinking they care that you don’t care about whales and dogs anymore. It’s pretty weak snark, especially because you’re pretending to do something that agrees with their point thinking you got them good.

I saw this sad interaction a lot in the wild when someone at lunch at work orders a vegetarian option and someone else leaves them in absolute tatters by responding “good, I’m going to order extra meat ;)” as if anyone else feels responsible for his choices.

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by seanwilson »

novok wrote: post #64
seanwilson wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either way, a typical female dairy cow during its lifetime is made to give birth about 4 times (they don't give milk otherwise), each time its baby is taken away so maximum milk can be harvested and then the mother is killed about 5 years into its 20 year lifespan when it stops producing as much milk. This is the reality of profitable dairy farming and people don't like to be told about it or think about it. If you t…

Most of them are not farmed in a sustainable cycle that prevents those animals from become endangered species? Or they think of the animals as pet animals. As for fur, I'm guessing it's because a moral panic happened in the 80s and nobody really cared that much about fur, since it was a luxury item for a few, while meat, milk and leather somewhat is something that everyone pretty much still uses today worldwide.

"Japan, Norway and Iceland who argue that whaling is part of their culture and should continue in a sustainable way." - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45364696

Dogs, cats, foxes, mink and horses aren't endangered either, and the amount of meat developed countries eat is a luxury as well.

My point is, if you're offended by the way other countries treat certain animals, you should think about if your use of animal products really aligns with your core beliefs or if you're going along with what's cultural to you without really thinking about it.

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by muro »

cptskippy wrote: post #42
vmilner wrote: post #34

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In France, at least, the "Divine Box" company seems to be acting as a distributor for monasteries.

Unfortunately it's import controls that stop the distribution internationally.

Works just fine in EU and to Switzerland

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by usrusr »

HDMI_Cable wrote: post #2

> “We tried explaining to our 75 cows that they needed to produce less milk but they don’t seem to have understood,” I don't know why, but this is the funniest thing I've read in a while. I can just imagine the monk explaining COVID to these cows, and just getting a "Moo" in return.

> I don't know why, but this is the funniest thing I've read in a while. I can just imagine the monk explaining COVID to these cows, and just getting a "Moo" in return.

Funny because it's impossible to imagine that situation without the monk looking like Anthony Fauci in a robe? That exact same situation must have happened just about everywhere...

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by imwillofficial »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #71
bluefirebrand wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've convinced me. I no longer care that some countries kill dolphins or whales or cats or whatever for food and foxes for fur.

I hope you don’t think you’re pwning them by repeating their point back to them thinking they care that you don’t care about whales and dogs anymore. It’s pretty weak snark, especially because you’re pretending to do something that agrees with their point thinking you got them good. I saw this sad interaction a lot in the wild when someone at lunch at work orders a vegetarian option and someone else leaves them in ab…

He really got under your skin didn’t He?

It was a joke my friend.

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by Judgmentality »

imwillofficial wrote: post #75
hombre_fatal wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope you don’t think you’re pwning them by repeating their point back to them thinking they care that you don’t care about whales and dogs anymore. It’s pretty weak snark, especially because you’re pretending to do something that agrees with their point thinking you got them good. I saw this sad interaction a lot in the wild when someone at lunch at work orders a vegetarian option and someone else leaves them in ab…

He really got under your skin didn’t He? It was a joke my friend.

Jokes aren't well tolerated on HN to begin with, and that comment seems a lot more obnoxious than funny.

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by Swizec »

seanwilson wrote: post #72
novok wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of them are not farmed in a sustainable cycle that prevents those animals from become endangered species? Or they think of the animals as pet animals. As for fur, I'm guessing it's because a moral panic happened in the 80s and nobody really cared that much about fur, since it was a luxury item for a few, while meat, milk and leather somewhat is something that everyone pretty much still uses today worldwide.

"Japan, Norway and Iceland who argue that whaling is part of their culture and should continue in a sustainable way." - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45364696 Dogs, cats, foxes, mink and horses aren't endangered either, and the amount of meat developed countries eat is a luxury as well. My point is, if you're offended by the way other countries treat certain animals, you should think about if your use of anim…

Personally I’m not offended by how other countries treat non-endangered animals. I wouldnt eat dog, but totally understand how they’re basically a pest in some parts of the world.

I do wish we find more humane ways to industrially raise livestock. Meat is way too cheap right now and we should reduce the intensity of its production. Humans dont need to eat meat at every meal like many of us do right now.

It’s also a shame that we don’t breed dairy cows for more longevity. I’m sure they could be productive for almost all their natural lifespan if we let them.

My grandparents had a small farm mostly for family use and it wasn’t uncommon to keep a cow for 10+ years. But they were treated almost lije pets. Each cow had a name and I think they rarely had more than 10 at a time.

PS: horse burger is very tasty. I recommend trying it if you get a chance

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by mauvehaus »

seanwilson wrote: post #55
jiofih wrote: post #46

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> We kill the male calves May have been true a few decades ago, but currently the farmers will buy “sexed” sperm (selected for females). I’ve never seen a male calf being killed for that reason.

Either way, a typical female dairy cow during its lifetime is made to give birth about 4 times (they don't give milk otherwise), each time its baby is taken away so maximum milk can be harvested and then the mother is killed about 5 years into its 20 year lifespan when it stops producing as much milk. This is the reality of profitable dairy farming and people don't like to be told about it or think about it. If you t…

It seems that leather is practically a (profitable) byproduct of the dairy industry in this case, no?
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