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400-year-old Greenland shark ‘longest-living vertebrate’ (2016)

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Re: 400-year-old Greenland shark ‘longest-living vertebrate’ (2016)

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Confirmation bias is a creepy thing sometimes.

I was literally asking my Google Home last night what the longest living vertebrate was and it told me the Greenland shark.

Had a whole conversation about it over dinner, arguing about how accurate we think these age-establishing methods are.

Though the more interesting part of our conversation (I would say) was wondering how ages work out in practice. For example why do the vast majority of animals not live beyond 20 years, even when we try to keep them alive as long as possible (dogs)? If the environment was different would longevity be different for all species, e.g more oxygen in the atmosphere or a longer day-night cycle? Etc.

Re: 400-year-old Greenland shark ‘longest-living vertebrate’ (2016)

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> The team looked at 28 sharks, most of which had died after being caught in fishing nets as by-catch. Nice job- the shark had done just fine for ~400 years.

The relative scale of the effects of the fishing industry as a whole vs. the few scientific studies that are done is staggeringly high.

Re: 400-year-old Greenland shark ‘longest-living vertebrate’ (2016)

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Confirmation bias is a creepy thing sometimes. I was literally asking my Google Home last night what the longest living vertebrate was and it told me the Greenland shark. Had a whole conversation about it over dinner, arguing about how accurate we think these age-establishing methods are. Though the more interesting part of our conversation (I would say) was wondering how ages work out in practice. For example why do…

> confirmation bias ..

Wouldn't that be more an example of the Baader Meinhof effect?

Re: 400-year-old Greenland shark ‘longest-living vertebrate’ (2016)

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> The team looked at 28 sharks, most of which had died after being caught in fishing nets as by-catch. Nice job- the shark had done just fine for ~400 years.

Of the shark was by-catch it means that it had been caught by commercial fishing and had already died when the scientists examined it.

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Confirmation bias is a creepy thing sometimes. I was literally asking my Google Home last night what the longest living vertebrate was and it told me the Greenland shark. Had a whole conversation about it over dinner, arguing about how accurate we think these age-establishing methods are. Though the more interesting part of our conversation (I would say) was wondering how ages work out in practice. For example why do…

> confirmation bias .. Wouldn't that be more an example of the Baader Meinhof effect?

How do people develop their repertoire/knowledge of these “effects” and laws?

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Confirmation bias is a creepy thing sometimes. I was literally asking my Google Home last night what the longest living vertebrate was and it told me the Greenland shark. Had a whole conversation about it over dinner, arguing about how accurate we think these age-establishing methods are. Though the more interesting part of our conversation (I would say) was wondering how ages work out in practice. For example why do…

> confirmation bias .. Wouldn't that be more an example of the Baader Meinhof effect?

Perhaps it is an example of Cunningham's Law?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> confirmation bias .. Wouldn't that be more an example of the Baader Meinhof effect?

How do people develop their repertoire/knowledge of these “effects” and laws?

Hacker News, sometimes reddit.... IDK of this effect has a name... the graham law maybe?
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