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French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by TheButlerian »

uppe wrote: post #17
HDMI_Cable wrote: post #2

> “We tried explaining to our 75 cows that they needed to produce less milk but they don’t seem to have understood,” I don't know why, but this is the funniest thing I've read in a while. I can just imagine the monk explaining COVID to these cows, and just getting a "Moo" in return.

Maybe don't impregnate them then. Cows don't magically produce milk, they are mammals and lactate because they had babies. They actually forcibly impregnate them and kill their babies if it's a male (veal) and keeps the loop going until the mother can't produce more babies and thus becomes unprofitable. That's funny to you? Sounds like torture and slavery to me. edit: wow, what a surprise, downvoted to the bottom. I…

You are downvoted because you are a fucking retard.

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by cptskippy »

vmilner wrote: post #34
kazen44 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

usually this kind of stuff (fancy cheeses, fancy beer etc) is very popular, but extremely difficult to get if you do not life in the area. As with most monastery related production, most do not sell online or even nationally.

In France, at least, the "Divine Box" company seems to be acting as a distributor for monasteries.

Unfortunately it's import controls that stop the distribution internationally.

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by cptskippy »

iends wrote: post #5

I assume I can’t buy this from the USA because customs rules...?

Yeah we can't get anything good here. I went down that rabbit hole one Christmas and it's a lost cause.

Unless you're willing to fly to Europe or Singapore (Cheese Ark) you're not getting the good stuff.

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by 1MachineElf »

HDMI_Cable wrote: post #2

> “We tried explaining to our 75 cows that they needed to produce less milk but they don’t seem to have understood,” I don't know why, but this is the funniest thing I've read in a while. I can just imagine the monk explaining COVID to these cows, and just getting a "Moo" in return.

Slightly related to the original post here, if you ever wondered how monks ended up in posession of 75 cows and farming land, Max Miller did an interesting and funny explanation of it on his Tasting History YT channel: https://youtu.be/zz0y1d6IIpY

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by chrisseaton »

1MachineElf wrote: post #44
HDMI_Cable wrote: post #2

> “We tried explaining to our 75 cows that they needed to produce less milk but they don’t seem to have understood,” I don't know why, but this is the funniest thing I've read in a while. I can just imagine the monk explaining COVID to these cows, and just getting a "Moo" in return.

Slightly related to the original post here, if you ever wondered how monks ended up in posession of 75 cows and farming land, Max Miller did an interesting and funny explanation of it on his Tasting History YT channel: https://youtu.be/zz0y1d6IIpY

> if you ever wondered how monks ended up in posession of 75 cows and farming land

Did it sound strange to you?

Farming and crafts are a core part of many monasteries, and many famous foods and drinks have been invented or refined by monks. Everything from Champagne and Buckfast. They have to do something simple to earn money and keep busy. And they’re usually in the countryside so have farm land by default.

What do the monasteries near you do to trade for income?

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by jiofih »

DanBC wrote: post #26
Swizec wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> after which they produce milk for about ten months Which just about brings us from spring 2020 to now. According to a quick google search, cows gestate for 9.5 months. > then the “ideal” breeding season for spring-born calves is 9 1/2 months prior to that or beginning in April but for sure by May. [^1] If you're planning to have baby cows in April 2020, you breed them in August 2019. By the time you find out about…

> As for what happens to the calves, they can't drink all the milk modern cows produce. Also they become big cows. Half of them do not become big cows because male cows don't produce milk. We kill the male calves. > Afaik we don't usually eat dairy cows Of course we eat them. They get turned into ground and minced beef.

> We kill the male calves

May have been true a few decades ago, but currently the farmers will buy “sexed” sperm (selected for females). I’ve never seen a male calf being killed for that reason.

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by bobthechef »

ben_w wrote: post #31
uppe wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe don't impregnate them then. Cows don't magically produce milk, they are mammals and lactate because they had babies. They actually forcibly impregnate them and kill their babies if it's a male (veal) and keeps the loop going until the mother can't produce more babies and thus becomes unprofitable. That's funny to you? Sounds like torture and slavery to me. edit: wow, what a surprise, downvoted to the bottom. I…

> Sounds like torture and slavery to me. To me as well, and yet you and I are in a small minority. Also: farming involves actions up to a year in advance of consequences, so change is slow and rare.

You can't enslave an animal that lacks free will and intellect by nature. Whether such farming practices are cruel is dependent on the particular practices. Obviously, one ought not be cruel to animals whether they lack free will and intellect or not. However, much of the woolly and sentimental "animal rights" polemic is grounded in gross misapprehension and anthropomorphization of animals other than us. It is terribly unsophisticated.

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by chrisseaton »

jiofih wrote: post #46
DanBC wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As for what happens to the calves, they can't drink all the milk modern cows produce. Also they become big cows. Half of them do not become big cows because male cows don't produce milk. We kill the male calves. > Afaik we don't usually eat dairy cows Of course we eat them. They get turned into ground and minced beef.

> We kill the male calves May have been true a few decades ago, but currently the farmers will buy “sexed” sperm (selected for females). I’ve never seen a male calf being killed for that reason.

> I’ve never seen a male calf being killed.

Well they don’t turn into veal steaks by themselves do they?

Re: French monks locked down with 2.8 tonnes of cheese pray for buyers

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Post by throwaway8581 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #49
jiofih wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We kill the male calves May have been true a few decades ago, but currently the farmers will buy “sexed” sperm (selected for females). I’ve never seen a male calf being killed for that reason.

> I’ve never seen a male calf being killed. Well they don’t turn into veal steaks by themselves do they?

Yum.
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