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Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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Featuring everybody's favorite piece of Asterix fan art: https://collections.louvre.fr/en/ark:/53355/cl010059199

Sorry to ask but can you explain the joke?

They're referring to https://auntymuriel.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/medusa.jpg?w...

This is the part where we all laugh and the credits roll out

Someone not knowing the two can't make the connection. Can AI?

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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I'm puzzled by this statement on the Mona Lisa entry [1]: "Artwork recovered after World War II, retrieved by the Office des Biens et Intérêts Privés; to be returned to its rightful owner once they have been identified. Online records of all MNR (‘National Museums Recovery’) works can be found on the French Ministry of Culture’s Rose Valland database." Does anybody know how World War II affected ownership in this cas…

Louis XIV not Louis IV.

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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> There is no telling whether you're actually buying an NFT from Jack himself It's fairly easy to verify the origins of statements here, especially since Jack is on Twitter announcing his NFT on his timeline. What more than that do you need? Same as you verify any celebrities selling movie props on ebay or whatever, if they haven't announced the sale via some other channel where they are already verified, don't trust…

> It's fairly easy to verify the origins of statements here, especially since Jack is on Twitter announcing his NFT on his timeline. What more than that do you need? Now you rely on a tweet being durable. The entire blockchain history is based on something not on the blockchain that can be edited by people with root at Twitter.

Easy to solve by storing inter-chain links, signatures, immutable data structures and content addressing

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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> It's fairly easy to verify the origins of statements here, especially since Jack is on Twitter announcing his NFT on his timeline. What more than that do you need? Now you rely on a tweet being durable. The entire blockchain history is based on something not on the blockchain that can be edited by people with root at Twitter.

Easy to solve by storing inter-chain links, signatures, immutable data structures and content addressing

And if Jack doesn't want to bother with that? Clearly he didn't do any of that this time.

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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NFTs are a sign that we really need to do something about wealth inequality.

Aka "people should spend money on what I want them to instead of what they want to, because I'm morally superior to them"

No, it's a sign that some people have way more money than they need. Which is a waste as long as other people have to worry about getting food on the table.

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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it's nice they're doing this, but I wonder when they're gonna start returning all the stolen pieces to their rightful owners, like Egypt for example.

>Stolen Dubious opinion >Rightful owners All long dead

If property can be rightfully inherited, either the descendants of whatever Pharaoh/other ancient Egyptian or the successor state of ancient Egypt are the rightful owners of what was taken from them. If your property may end up in a foreign museum millennia after you die, why even bother working?

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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Easy to solve by storing inter-chain links, signatures, immutable data structures and content addressing

And if Jack doesn't want to bother with that? Clearly he didn't do any of that this time.

Is not needed for him to do anything, most of mainstream internet is already archived via Archive.org and similar efforts

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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I know you’re joking but lots of people still struggle with the reason why NFTs exist, including Apple’s unofficial PR department John Gruber. But it seems he finally understood it now thanks to this article: https://jackrusher.com/journal/what-does-it-mean-to-buy-a-gi... [0] https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/03/26/rusher-nfts

That explains why original signed artworks are valuable, not really why NFTs are valuable after all if I wanted to buy a Jack Dorsey signature tweet for two million dollars or a Beeple collage for 70 million I'm sure Beeple would have gladly put it on a usb stick, signed me a card, printed it billboard sized and driven it to my house while taking me out for a steak dinner It's absolutely nebulous what the 'digital' p…

It’s the creator certifying that this file is the definitive copy, and having an instance of it to get paid for.

In an age of trivial copying, editing, recompressing, and other alterations, “original” can get lost. This gives means to identify, transfer, and prove originality.

Re: Louvre makes its entire collection available online

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post #108

I'm puzzled by this statement on the Mona Lisa entry [1]: "Artwork recovered after World War II, retrieved by the Office des Biens et Intérêts Privés; to be returned to its rightful owner once they have been identified. Online records of all MNR (‘National Museums Recovery’) works can be found on the French Ministry of Culture’s Rose Valland database." Does anybody know how World War II affected ownership in this cas…

It's because that one is a copy of the original (still old, but ~100 years posterior to Da Vinci's). According to https://www.pop.culture.gouv.fr/notice/mnr/MNR00265 its last known owner was Friedrich Welz, an Austrian gallery owner, so the work must have come to Paris postwar to figure out whether it needed to be restituted to a previous owner. The original Joconde is https://collections.louvre.fr/en/ark:/53355/cl01…

And here's a good accounting of the Mona Lisa's journey in hiding during WW2, and the existence of the other copies.

https://www.artcuriouspodcast.com/artcuriouspodcast/1

It's underwhelming in real life, very small, dimly lit, under thick glass, teeming with tourists.

Online art is a great endeavor but there's no context for art without the space in which it lives, and in this I think the Musée d'Orsay is the better space.

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