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A professor declined a $60K research award from Google

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Re: A professor declined a $60K research award from Google

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“Luke Stark declined a $60,000 research award from Google in support of the ousted leaders of its ethical AI group.” Ugh...I’m all for standing up for what you believe in, but I think he was foolish for turning down this money.

it's a great symbolic gesture

Re: A professor declined a $60K research award from Google

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post #3

“Luke Stark declined a $60,000 research award from Google in support of the ousted leaders of its ethical AI group.” Ugh...I’m all for standing up for what you believe in, but I think he was foolish for turning down this money.

it's a great symbolic gesture

If it helps him attract grad students, the ROI is better than $60k

Re: A professor declined a $60K research award from Google

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“Luke Stark declined a $60,000 research award from Google in support of the ousted leaders of its ethical AI group.” Ugh...I’m all for standing up for what you believe in, but I think he was foolish for turning down this money.

He's an assistant professor, so although he's probably not rich, I imagine he has pretty good career prospects in general, and is probably financially secure already. I'm sure he could use the $60,000 (he was applying for it in the first place after all!) but I suspect that getting or not-getting that money isn't going to be really life-changing for him. So it doesn't seem so foolish to me.

Besides, what's the point in principles if you're not willing to sacrifice anything to stick to them?

Re: A professor declined a $60K research award from Google

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's a great symbolic gesture

If it helps him attract grad students, the ROI is better than $60k

If he can get an offer from Google, he’ll find the money in other ways.

Re: A professor declined a $60K research award from Google

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“Luke Stark declined a $60,000 research award from Google in support of the ousted leaders of its ethical AI group.” Ugh...I’m all for standing up for what you believe in, but I think he was foolish for turning down this money.

I guess it depends on the strings attached. If there are basically none, then he could have taken the money and donated it to a charity he believes in.

Re: A professor declined a $60K research award from Google

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“Luke Stark declined a $60,000 research award from Google in support of the ousted leaders of its ethical AI group.” Ugh...I’m all for standing up for what you believe in, but I think he was foolish for turning down this money.

People prioritize lots of stuff. It’s funny to me when people stand up for dumb causes, but to each their own as what seems dumb to me is important for another.

Re: A professor declined a $60K research award from Google

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post #7

“Luke Stark declined a $60,000 research award from Google in support of the ousted leaders of its ethical AI group.” Ugh...I’m all for standing up for what you believe in, but I think he was foolish for turning down this money.

I guess it depends on the strings attached. If there are basically none, then he could have taken the money and donated it to a charity he believes in.

You can't do that if you work for a university and the grant goes through your workplace.

Re: A professor declined a $60K research award from Google

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From my understanding of the events, there was not really anything wrong with the way Google handled the AI Ethics researchers it fired. One threatened to quit unless a long list of demands were met. The other was exfiltrating company data.

Why would this guy give up real money to defend them?

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