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Documents show Amazon is aware drivers pee in bottles and even defecate enroute

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Re: Documents show Amazon is aware drivers pee in bottles and even defecate enroute

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Post by nerdponx »

simonebrunozzi wrote: post #5

> You don’t really believe the peeing in bottles thing, do you? If that were true, nobody would work for us. > The truth is that we have over a million incredible employees around the world who are proud of what they do, and have great wages and health care from day one. Amazon's PR (one of the best in the industry) at its finest. Minimize/deny/ignore the issue raised, and quickly bridge to something else entirely. D…

Ah, the old economics joke:

> Two economists are walking down the street, when they pass buy a luxury car dealership. One economist says, "I really want that Ferrari!" The other economist replies, "Clearly you don't!"

And the other one that isn't as relevant but is funny:

> Two economists are walking down the street, when one of them sees something on the ground. She says, "hey, is that a $20 bill on the ground?" The other economist replies, "obviously not, otherwise someone would have picked it up already!"

Re: Documents show Amazon is aware drivers pee in bottles and even defecate enroute

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Post by JKCalhoun »

mrits wrote: post #2

I think the defecation says more about the driver than the company.

> We understand that DA’s [driver associates] may have emergencies while on-road, and especially during Covid, DAs have struggled to find bathrooms while delivering.

> Halie Marie Brown ... told The Intercept that the practice “happens because we are literally implicitly forced to do so, otherwise we will end up losing our jobs for too many ‘undelivered packages.’”

Sounds like there may be a little more to it than you suggest.

Re: Documents show Amazon is aware drivers pee in bottles and even defecate enroute

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Post by throw14082020 »

User23 wrote: post #9
prpl wrote: post #3

I floated around grocery stores quite a bit in the early/mid 2000s, working at several locations and various jobs. Meth was fairly common among the grocery night stockers, especially in the big stores. Often times management has some idea of this, but it was usually don’t ask, don’t tell, especially in the union stores, until the point somebody wanted a person fired.

I assume some fairly high percentage of FAANG developers are on some kind of lawfully obtained prescription stimulant.

Prescription stimulant? What do you mean?

Re: Documents show Amazon is aware drivers pee in bottles and even defecate enroute

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Post by tareqak »

prpl wrote: post #3

I floated around grocery stores quite a bit in the early/mid 2000s, working at several locations and various jobs. Meth was fairly common among the grocery night stockers, especially in the big stores. Often times management has some idea of this, but it was usually don’t ask, don’t tell, especially in the union stores, until the point somebody wanted a person fired.

I am at a loss here: I don’t understand how your comment relates to the article or to topics related to the article.

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Post by mycologos »

Amazon is, to me, a glaring example of just how little people are willing to translate outrage over capitalism and wage slavery into voting with their feet. I've literally heard people trash Amazon's labor practices, admit that they've been Prime members for years and will continue using them, and then express hope that the government will step in and do something to Amazon. Since many of these people are individuals I like on a personal level, I don't push on this, but there's something disturbingly infantile about it.

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Post by Synaesthesia »

throw14082020 wrote: post #14
User23 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume some fairly high percentage of FAANG developers are on some kind of lawfully obtained prescription stimulant.

Prescription stimulant? What do you mean?

Like Ritalin or amphetamine in prescribed form, as ADHD medicine.

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Post by aaomidi »

throw14082020 wrote: post #14
User23 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume some fairly high percentage of FAANG developers are on some kind of lawfully obtained prescription stimulant.

Prescription stimulant? What do you mean?

Adderall.

Re: Documents show Amazon is aware drivers pee in bottles and even defecate enroute

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Post by prpl »

mycologos wrote: post #10
prpl wrote: post #3

I floated around grocery stores quite a bit in the early/mid 2000s, working at several locations and various jobs. Meth was fairly common among the grocery night stockers, especially in the big stores. Often times management has some idea of this, but it was usually don’t ask, don’t tell, especially in the union stores, until the point somebody wanted a person fired.

Any guesses as to whether the causality is more "night stocking is tough -- better pop some meth to up my productivity" or "night stocking seems like a good way to earn cash while I'm high on meth"?

It was usually the former. It was a very hard job, nearly aerobic, job at least 3 nights a week (1-2 of the nights was working backstock which might not need as much hustle). On top of that, it’s between 11 and 7, some people have more than one job and/or have to switch between day shifts and night shifts.

Re: Documents show Amazon is aware drivers pee in bottles and even defecate enroute

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Post by etxm »

throw14082020 wrote: post #14
User23 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume some fairly high percentage of FAANG developers are on some kind of lawfully obtained prescription stimulant.

Prescription stimulant? What do you mean?

Probably Adderall or modafinil
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