The movie rights should pay for some of the salvage costs
Is that ship still stuck?
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Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#632I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…
This is a really good example of how terrible people are at judging scale. Some numbers getting thrown around downthread say there's something to the tune of 10,000 40ft containers. To give a bit of a sense of perspective, that's like trying to clear out some 200 football fields worth of semi-trucks, except they are stacked, packed full of stuff, and have no gas or wheels. And all of them are perched atop a ship that…
For moving containers off the best bet would probably be heavy lift choppers, the ship is large enough you could have several working on it at once and then just drop them off nearby to be loaded onto barges or something. A huge undertaking but it any weight taken off the Evergreen is less digging they have to do and the time is so expensive.
Also it's less middle of nowhere there's a pretty large airbase nearby it looks like from Google Maps and a second smaller airport south of where Evergreen got stuck so there's plenty of support near.
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3371843,32.2798365,3799m/dat...
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#633You can also text for status: (586) 800-BOAT
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#634Quite the arrogance here of mostly software devs trying to out -solutionize marine/shipping experts who undoubtedly have been consulted and are already looking for the quickest way to resolve the situation. With billions of dollars in stake, I'm sure even the most expensive experts are involved.
... but I think we've also identified a market for a Poly Bridge style game where you try to unstuck a containers ship from the canal in increasingly absurd ways.
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#635Earlier quoted context omitted.
Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies
It's a way of thinking out loud and providing an opening for someone more knowledgeable to explain what is being overlooked. It makes for interesting threads.
So far I haven't really seen any other suggestions saying to cut the bolbous bow off. The ship can still sail without it.
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#636My non-techie wife just said to me, "We need to NFT this situation somehow." She's been down that rabbit hole ever since reading about the Beeple piece.
I hope she reads the article about Beeple fraud. Buyer and owner of that art are basically investors in the same nft comp, there is no transaction either. It's just a PR.
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#637Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship. You're basically asking to build a port in the middle of the egyptian desert. That isn't going to happen. I say build a trebuchet on deck and start launching containers into the desert.
There are 20 thousand containers on that ship. No, that's not a mistake. It says it can carry 20 thousand and I assume it travels at capacity. Even if you could somehow launch one every minute that would still take 2 weeks of non-stop bombardment. Fascinating how much stuff you can put on a ship and the scale of loading/unloading operation.
So no way you're doing it in less than a few months without a port facility. A year would be 1 every 25 mins which I think is more likely.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#638I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…
The most impressive thing to me, reading this comment thread, is all the ways the situation could get worse.
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#639Can't wait for elon to offer a solution...
Tell him Egypt is planning to use a hundred Ford F150s to drag the boat, and see how quick he can get a comparable number of Cybertrucks and/or model Ss and 3s to show up. (Realistically, Egypt would probably use bulldozers if they actually wanted to go that route.)
If we're going to pick vaporware for the job why not use the Tesla semi?
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#640My non-techie wife just said to me, "We need to NFT this situation somehow." She's been down that rabbit hole ever since reading about the Beeple piece.
Maybe some kind of trustless crypto lotto about when the ahip will be freed?