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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#431
post #128

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Maybe. That's a lot of barges. Remember that you then have to go and unload the barges, and there are 20,000 containers.

20,000 TEU, not containers.

TEU being Twenty-foot Equivalent Unit, and containers generally are either 20ft or 40ft long.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#432
post #428
post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

"Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship." I would guess someone could figure out how to use a normal-ish crane to unload some of the containers and set them down in the sand. The top containers look like they are maybe 150 feet or so higher than ground level.

Even if so, now you've got a handful of containers on the sand and a giant ship stuck in the canal.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#433
post #354

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Brute force won't really help here, as the ship does not have the structural integrity to resist the force rocket engines would exert on it. Breaking the ship up would be catastrophic, as clean-up of many pieces would take a lot longer than getting it unstuck.

Nuking the Suez canal was a better proposal than using the rocket boosters. The most important artery in the world is blocked right now and you're concerned about clean-up work? It's the desert!

I'm concerned about the clean-up work of the pieces that end up in the canal. The canal is pretty tight, there's not much space for debris in it without blocking it.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#434
post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Is there a chance the ship could tip over in some type of manouver, considering it's stuck both at the front and the back?

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#435
post #62

I suppose I'll kick off the usual "why don't they just do X" thread. It seems to me that if they can't move it by any normal means, they could just start pushing cargo containers overboard and fish them out until it's light enough to move. I could also a lot of plausible reasons why they wouldn't do that: - it wouldn't work (no equipment to move containers) - the ship's owner doesn't want to do that and no one has th…

Perhaps most importantly: the channel is only a couple dozen meters deep, which is part of the problem. Dropping a bunch of containers down there would almost certainly create a new obstacle for this and other ships

I had assumed the containers would be retrieved by tugboats or whatever works.

Depending on what's in the containers, I'd expect most would probably float, at least for a little while until water leaks in. Maybe long enough to drag them out of the way; either to the sides of the channel or out of the water altogether.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#437
post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship." I would guess someone could figure out how to use a normal-ish crane to unload some of the containers and set them down in the sand. The top containers look like they are maybe 150 feet or so higher than ground level.

Even if so, now you've got a handful of containers on the sand and a giant ship stuck in the canal.

Sure. Just guessing that taking weight off of the end that's marooned in the sand might help.

Edit. Okay "ends".

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#438
post #398

I guess it's pretty complicated, but if it were less stuck, I wonder if they could use the anchors to winch it out of the tricky spot it's in. Use a tug to drop one on the other side of the canal, then pull it in to move the boat sideways.

You're breaking the anchor chain or housing in that case. The problem with just trying to pull the thing out is it's extremely likely to cause a leak and then becomes even harder to move.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#439
post #164

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People think I'm joking but we should bomb it to smithereens. The crater would probably just fill up with the water flow.

If this had gotten stuck in 1960s Russia they would have done that already.

And 70 years later the radiation levels would be getting back to normal.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#440
post #155
post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies

Congrats! You've discovered that engineers like to stretch their imaginations and theorize about solutions to problems for their own fun and enjoyment
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