Is that ship still stuck?

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:37 PM UTC

Zenst wrote: post #272

blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

> It's really stuck. It's probably going to take a couple of weeks to get it unstuck. My armchair engineering would dump a load of salt into the water to increase buoyancy of the ship long enough for the tugs to get some momentum with less effort than currently. That would be my cheap try solution to help the tugs that have already hit there limit so why not change the physics and add a load of salt.

Post by m463 » Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:38 PM UTC

busyant wrote: post #412

adflux wrote: post #155

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Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies

> armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies There are 2 types of armchair engineers. The ones who sneer and say, "If they just then it would be fixed because I know best" Those people are bores. There are others who are just tossing ideas around: partly for amusement and partly because they enjoy thinking, "What would I do in this situation ...?" I haven't seen too man…

Post by b112 » Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:39 PM UTC

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #396

nhoughto wrote: post #374

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Imagine the pressures on the temporary barrier too, and what a failure would mean. Even bigger disaster.

The pressure on the hypothetical levee wouldn't be much since we're only talking about a couple dozen feet of water depth. (Yes, some jerk is going to come along and calculate out that that's an impressive amount of total force and act like that's a big deal but it's not really that impressive when you've got a huge amount of material to spread it out over). Digging out around the ship is going to be much less work b…

Post by luxuryballs » Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:40 PM UTC

londons_explore wrote: post #89

6nf wrote: post #52

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Only about the center third of the channel is actually deep enough for this massive ship. Both ends of the ship is stuck in several meters of sand. So far they've only managed get two bulldozers on to try and dig it out but progress is slow.

Kind of amazing that in 48 hours, an event happens that threatens one of Egypts major income streams and political power sources, and the maximum they can spare is 2 bulldozers... Like why not call in the army, rent every bulldozer in the district, and within 12 hours you'll have 30 on site and be able to move a lot of sand quickly to free it?

Post by gabagool » Thu, Mar 25, 2021, 11:41 PM UTC

Denvercoder9 wrote: post #295

qbasic_forever wrote: post #177

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Oh what about magnetism? Could we wrap the ship in wire and send so much current through that it repels against the Earth's magnetic field and shoots itself right into the atmosphere? Basically building a giant rail gun. Might need a small nuclear power plant or two to make it feasible.

> Might need a small nuclear power plant or two to make it feasible. Amazingly, that's a severe underestimation. The force on a wire carrying current in a magnetic field is given by F = B*I*l, and to move it upwards that force needs to be at least equal to gravity, so equate to F = m*g. - Let's be generous and assume B = 100 uT = 100 * 10^-6 T. - Likewise, assume the ship is a rectangular box with sides of 400 m x 10…