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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by pjc50 »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #132
leesec wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not even close. This ship is absolutely giant.

Hrm change of plans, let's pull a few ICBMs out and set them up on each corner with massive tow lines. We'll get it out the way in an instant... and into low earth orbit minutes later!

If I've done the maths right, you need a force of two billion Newton to lift it, and even if you round up a https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-30_Minuteman to 1MN you still need two thousand of them. ICBMs are not that big.

Use musk's starship and you need >166 of them...

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by [deleted] »

01100011 wrote: post #169
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Could you build a temporary barrier around the ship and the section of the canal, bring in some massive pumps, and temporarily raise the water level around the ship? Edit: Something like this https://www.hydrologicalsolutions.com/aqua-barrier-cofferdam...

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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by ksd482 »

arkitaip wrote: post #182
atdt wrote: post #174

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It's a way of thinking out loud and providing an opening for someone more knowledgeable to explain what is being overlooked. It makes for interesting threads.

It's hilariously arrogant too.

Maybe but maybe not.

Like the parent comment said, it’s a way of thinking out loud.

For e.g., when someone says “just dig it out, it just pull it away...”, I give them a benefit of doubt by assuming what they are really saying is “I know it’s not as simple as just pulling it out but can someone explain why we can’t though?”

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by NicoJuicy »

nine_k wrote: post #178
NicoJuicy wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about creating a mini-dam surrounding the vessel and raising the water level so it can turn. Or stopping the current at 90% of the ship and letting it push to the front ( if it's in the right direction), perhaps in combination with gigantic sails ( if there's enough wind) and/or sucking sand/mud from the bottom.

Apparently, there are no watertight gates anywhere near. Filling in the entire canal is unrealistic.

I'm not saying the entire canal. Surround the boat, make a dam somehow.

Concrete is dry in 24-48 hours. Sand and wooden poles could be enough.

Some ideas on the how, could be found in this video, on how they created a bridge in the middle ages: https://youtu.be/nJgD6gyi0Wk

I'm pretty sure engineers could find better/faster solutions than what I'm proposing.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by dghlsakjg »

londons_explore wrote: post #137
BrianOnHN wrote: post #75

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It's a lot of containers.

it's a quarter mile long. You can probably have 10 helicopters working at once while still keeping safe distances. Each helicopter has a crew of 4 on the boat and 4 on the shore. They hook 4 chains to the 4 corner hoists of each container. Say it takes 1 minutes per container to affix the chains, 1 minute to fly to the sand, 1 minute to unhitch, and 1 minute to fly back. Thats a lot slower than agricultural helicopte…

The worlds highest capacity heavy lift chopper (M-26, of which there are 20 operational) has a max take off weight of 44k lbs. A standard 40 ft. container can be loaded to a gross weight of 66k lbs.

It takes a purpose built crane a few minutes to unload a container, so I sort of doubt a helicopter could make it happen faster.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by [deleted] »

adflux wrote: post #155
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies

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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by ericj5 »

topspin wrote: post #206
prox wrote: post #184

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If this was space engineers I would build a crane drone and offload it unto nearby ships. Or build giant trucks to help the ship get unstuck. Or just tow it outside the environment...

Where is Elon when you need him?

He just offered to build them a little submarine

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by dogma1138 »

zeteo wrote: post #86
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

>Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship. You're basically asking to build a port in the middle of the egyptian desert. That isn't going to happen. I think you just need a smaller crane ship to transfer the cargo e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxiliary_crane_ship

Assuming the crane ship can even get into position to offload it.

The ship is stuck because the sides of the canal are quite shallow.

You are quite likely to get two stuck ships instead of one.

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