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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#41

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Because it’s hard

Just dig a new canal around the ship? A quarter mile diversion can't take that long to dig. The whole canal is 120 miles, so an extra quarter mile they should be able to dig in a few days I would think?

Lol no

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it’s hard

Just dig a new canal around the ship? A quarter mile diversion can't take that long to dig. The whole canal is 120 miles, so an extra quarter mile they should be able to dig in a few days I would think?

This sounds eerily similar to "Just add the new feature, it can't take that long". Things are complicated.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#45

Had rockets not been so regulated, this problem could have easily been solved. It would not be cheap but with a 150million insurance budget it is doable. Egypt is losing 400million in trade every hour. The ship weighs 200 000 tons. You only need to drag it out of the sand, not bring it to LEO. Another option would be a lot of shaped charges but the side effects are much more catastrophic if things go wrong. In the ol…

At the very least, why aren't they using helicopters to take the containers off one-by-one. That would reduce the overall weight, and it'd be easier to move an empty ship than one weighed down by cargo.

It looks like there might be a kind of priority difference going on here...

To all the ship owners and cargo owners, this blockage is a big problem and massive amounts of money should be spent to solve it.

But to the canal owners, they are only losing relatively small amounts of revenue by the canal being shut, so while they are sending all their boats to try pull it free, they aren't yet at the stage of calling in the army helicopters to help unload the ship.

At some point Egypts government will probably get involved, and then the army will show up with tanks with a lot of pulling power, massive winches installed on the shoreline, and helicopters for unloading.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#48
post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Weeks are measured in what I'd call, a lot of money. Is it a consolidation of funds sort of issue? Anybody responsible for getting it fixed?

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it’s hard

Just dig a new canal around the ship? A quarter mile diversion can't take that long to dig. The whole canal is 120 miles, so an extra quarter mile they should be able to dig in a few days I would think?

Sounds easier to just dig through the ship.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

#50
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Wonder how the data for the actual position of the ship is obtained or if it’s estimated and just hard coded on to the map? I always love sites that are question in the domain with answers in the webpage as the main content.

This is one particular outlet[1] for that data but, AFAIK, all modern commercial vessels continuously report their location via satellite or, preferably, coastal AIS. That data is collected by something then APIs happen along with aggregation and probably more APIs and... after all that, the data is pretty widely available. Ship location isn't considered privileged security information which was a bit surprising to m…

It's super useful to know the location, speed and course of other vessels nearby for navigational purposes. For those few regions where piracy is a serious issue, vessels are either escorted by navy ships in convoys, arrange private security contractors or turn off AIS. The benefits of hiding yourself don't outweigh the downsides though, especially not in "civilized" oceans.
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