as a vim user, how could I learn Emacs? I know of Evil mode, but how easy is it to have some stuff just like I have in vim (such as custom text objects, vim-surround, etc..).
Emacs 27.2
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Re: Emacs 27.2
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious if you've already used evil with vanilla why you'd migrate to spacemacs or doom. I've never found either to add much that a custom config can't get to easily and with more control. Maybe that's changed in the past half-decade or so since I last tried Spacemacs, though.
The vim bindings are only one part of Spacemacs. The other (and I'd say most important) part is the SPC menu that exposes hundreds of keybindings in a discoverable, unobtrusive, and interactive interface.
Isn't that also just an elpa / melpa package though?
Re: Emacs 27.2
#83Anyone running the jit Emacs? Can't wait for it. I did try compiling it from source for my linux setup. Would love to see it on windows.
I have compiled straight from source on the feature/native-comp branch, and it works noticeably much faster. I am actually scared of going back to the regular Emacs, as I may find it way too slow. I am not sure how much it is from native Emacs, as when I did this, I also enabled all the other recommended optimizations from lsp (increasing the gc threshold early in the config, installing and compiling with native json…
It looks like the configure option has been renamed to
--with-native-compilation
Re: Emacs 27.2
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Going on 25 years with Emacs. Lots of other things I've changed over the years, but still happy with Emacs and Postgres.
I wish to use Emacs, but those keyboard shortcuts do not make any sense for me. Is there a way to have emacs with custom shortcuts as a ready package where I can modify those shortcuts before digging in with all the rest. I do not mind keyboard shortcuts in gneeral and use them all the time, it's just those in Emacs are hard to learn/remember knowing that I wish to change them anyway . I am looking for the way to set…
Well, if you already know vim keystrokes, just use Spacemacs. The big win is easy discoverability: using the space bar as a menu-starter, and when you find the command you want, it tells you what key stroke you could have used instead.
Re: Emacs 27.2
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spacemacs is indeed great, I used it myself recently. But I will say, it's no longer really actively maintained. The community has migrated over to ~~Spacemacs~ Dooom Emacs, which is very similar (still uses space as leader key and vim bindings everywhere). In my experience, Doom Emacs runs a lot faster too. https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs edit: Changeed Spacemacs to Doom Emacs, whoops.
> The community has migrated over to Spacemacs I'm guessing you meant to say Doom Emacs there?
I did! Thank you for the correction. Editted.
Re: Emacs 27.2
#86as a vim user, how could I learn Emacs? I know of Evil mode, but how easy is it to have some stuff just like I have in vim (such as custom text objects, vim-surround, etc..).
Look at Doom Emacs. It's pre-configured to work out of the box for modern dev.
There are also some good guides on YouTube by DistroTube, if you prefer to learn that way.
Re: Emacs 27.2
#87Anyone running the jit Emacs? Can't wait for it. I did try compiling it from source for my linux setup. Would love to see it on windows.
I've just tried it on macOS, built by this tool: https://github.com/jimeh/build-emacs-for-macos
Unfortunately it keeps locking up my entire computer so might not be a goer just yet.
Re: Emacs 27.2
#88I tried Emacs after reading so much about it lately...but I don’t understand how people use it. The sheer volume of key combinations always in play to do things makes my hands hurt. It made me see the appeal of some of those concave keyboards.
Many people find it helpful to swap ctrl with capslock.
Re: Emacs 27.2
#89Not to start a holy war, but what are the advantages of emacs over vim these days? I'm considering switching to emacs just to have learned both.
In some sense, they're not in the same category. The old joke "Emacs is a great operating system, it just needs a good text editor" is basically true.
If you like vim, try Doom Emacs or Spacemacs.
If I were going for pure text editing today I might want something like https://kakoune.org/ whose selection->action pattern seems better than Vim's action->selection pattern.
Re: Emacs 27.2
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have compiled straight from source on the feature/native-comp branch, and it works noticeably much faster. I am actually scared of going back to the regular Emacs, as I may find it way too slow. I am not sure how much it is from native Emacs, as when I did this, I also enabled all the other recommended optimizations from lsp (increasing the gc threshold early in the config, installing and compiling with native json…
I also enable march=native for the compile. My guess is it is mostly placebo, but I feel it helps.
I only know of this discussion[1] on Daniel Lemire's blog regarding -march=native, which seems to have the "it's complicated" conclusion. But yes, _theoretically_ that is a way to compile for better performance, for your own machine.
[1] https://lemire.me/blog/2018/07/25/it-is-more-complicated-tha...