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DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you forgot to mention the time it takes hunting for your 'obscure teenage years' CDs on eBay, setting up search alerts for each CD to appear for ~$1 with cheap shipping, waiting three weeks for them to arrive from Lithuania, alcohol-rubbing the dozen sale stickers off the jewel case, cleaning the CDs with lint-free holy water, ripping the audio losslessly at superfast 52x, physically scanning with a scanner and optim…

why would i do any of that? it’s usually downloading, fixing the tags (if needed), moving it to its subdir in the music directory. that’s all

try adjusting your obscurity filter

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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post #5

I used to be a huge foobar2000 fan with a huge FLAC library. A bit later I got used to iTunes, because there was no good foobar2000 alternative on macOS, and I dialed back the library. Then I said fuck it and moved all the way over to Spotify, trading music quality (and UI) for discoverability. And I don't see myself going back.

Don't delete your music man, I "slimmed" down my collection from 1TB+ to 200GB by deleting all the more "common" stuff I could easily find on Spotify only to realise that the versions I had (the original, pure, untouched music) was only available as fucking remasters etcetera.

I miss Oink/What.CD.

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you can just torrent them. Chances are that those "obscure teenage year" CDs aren't and never will be on spotify either so if you want them you'll have to go through all that in addition to paying a service with incomplete library and crappy player.

obscure as in cannot be found online torrents of such material are non-existent, dead or unreliable at best, and almost never lossless the point being to avoid being constantly let down by audio streaming providers but safe to say the point was missed on this occasion

Yes but if you can't find it online, then it's also not on Spotify.

So you still have to do that. It's not an option so we don't get the point you're making.

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

#34

I used Foobar2000 for years in order to keep using OzoneMP after Winamp had fallen off the wagon. Based on what I remember of the software license for plugins (modified BSD with a no reverse engineering clause added if I recall correctly), it seemed clear that the devs felt that there was some secret property to their implementation that they wanted to protect. It wasn't obvious to me what that was, though, beyond ma…

The plugin license didn't allow hooking/injecting into the program to modify the behavior outside of the provided APIs.

The reasons are pretty simple: those kind of plugins would break and cause crashes when the internals of the player were changed.

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

#35
post #24

How is the tagging system in DeaDBeef? My music library has grown exponentially in the past year or so, due to boredom during covid, and I've come to the conclusion that playlists (as in, static lists of music files that you need to update manually) are functionally useless for large libraries. What I've been looking for, but so far haven't been able to find, is a system that creates playlists from queries to my musi…

Your music taste sounds appealing to me, out of curiosity would you have some bands/artists you'd recommend off the cuff?

Sure, I only very recently started expanding my music horizons, but here are some I picked randomly from my library. Lately I'm into desert blues / enka / math rock / city pop.

  Tinariwen - Sastanàqqàm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vACZA9dGvV4)
  Mdou Moctar - Tarhatazed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZvPoE0EH1o)
  椎名林檎 – 人生は夢だらけ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDnLHd2Ei3Y)
  Tatsuro Yamashita - LOVE SPACE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNQic9N2I7c)
  Mazouni - Écoute-moi camarade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnsa9dazW04)
  Stromae - Papaoutai (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiKj0Z_Xnjc)
  Spitz - Yasashii Ano Ko (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkIOd78C82I)
  Trio Nordestino - Forro Pesado (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwbqMR8k8gg)
  Given - Marutsuke (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI_fCegBxZw)
I usually find music through radiooooo and random YouTube playlists/channels, such as below:

  Radiooooo https://radiooooo.com/
  Habibi Funk (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSzlOYn5Ae0KO94AWy7XeVw)
  japanese math rock to listen while strolling around in the cherry blossoms (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-YDhSU4OwI&t=1661s)
  japanese enka when gracefully ending an everlasting war (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spcoJ8Xcqy8&t=1055s)
  japanese indie rock songs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRiruE1FaIQ)
  My Analog Journal -
(https://www.youtube.com/user/zagorofficial)

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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I'm a big DeaDBeeF user on mac, and it has reasonable Cocoa UI (so it looks and feels native!) - this is actually pretty unusual for players on the platform! I make a few tweaks (it's open source, so you can!), but it is very pleasant to use and lets me treat my music as just a collection of playlists rather than railroading me into a big complicated media library tracking system. Additionally, the main developer is…

What tweaks do you make? (If you don’t mind sharing.)

They're all visual appearance tweaks - the mac version doesn't have as many customisation options yet - but it's being worked on!

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

#37
I sigh every time someone says deadbeef is great alternative to foobar2000. The greatest thing about foobar2000 is media library which deadbeef doesn't even have. Actually, no other player on the planet can compete with foobar's media library. I'm not sure what kind of magic it uses, but the second I put new files in directories where my music is, foobar2000 sees it and I can access it in foobar. Sometimes, I listen to a random track and decide I want to hear everything from this artist that I have in library. I press 'a' on a selected track and I see everything from this artist. I press 'A' on a track and I get everything from this album. I press 'q', type few letters in search bar, press enter and I get new playlist with the results. I press 'o' on a track and it opens a file explorer in the location where the track is located and it also selects it. Quite useful if I want to move it somewhere else or copy it or rename or whatever. These are all my custom shortcuts but I love the fact that you can assign shortcut to virtually anything. There's also tag editor and format converter. There's also really cool feature that you can queue any file you double click in file explorer in its own playlist (I call this playlist Inbox), so that the playlist I'm currently listening is unmodified.

Closest thing I found on Linux is ncmpcpp and it's still a far cry from everything I can do in foobar2000.

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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post #7
post #5

I used to be a huge foobar2000 fan with a huge FLAC library. A bit later I got used to iTunes, because there was no good foobar2000 alternative on macOS, and I dialed back the library. Then I said fuck it and moved all the way over to Spotify, trading music quality (and UI) for discoverability. And I don't see myself going back.

If a music streaming service came out that had a good API for integrating with 3rd party UIs I would switch in a heartbeat. For now Spotify is still a better experience than maintaining my own collection though.

There are third-party Spotify clients, like https://github.com/librespot-org/librespot.

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

#39
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a music streaming service came out that had a good API for integrating with 3rd party UIs I would switch in a heartbeat. For now Spotify is still a better experience than maintaining my own collection though.

For what it’s worth, Roon + Tidal has been exactly that for me and since I started using both together, I’ve heard (and subsequently purchased) more good music in the four months I’ve been using in than in the four years before.

I've always thought it looks great, but it's incredibly expensive. $700 for a lifetime license... even if it was $300 it'd be easier to stomach.

What makes it worth it for you?

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

#40
For me, foobar2k was never really about the UI. It was about the audio engine. It was the only player at the time I could trust to just do the right thing. Whenever I have tried any "fb2k-like" players they have only focussed on the UI but have the same shoddy audio engine as everything else. Is this any different?
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