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Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

#41

How would that work in terms of taxes? The UK doesn't have taxes based on location like the US?

The other advantage of the UK being small and everyone working in country is you can therefore still meet up easily say every couple of weeks, or for smaller groups to work together for a short time.

I guess in the US people can fly for this too. Does anyone do "work anywhere but must be in the same state"?

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

#42

I really much appreciate this aspect of the pandemic. The "home office revolution" has long been possible, but still would not have happened for a long time without COVID.

People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

I totally disagree, people go to work at least partly to get away from friends or family.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

#43
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People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

Is all of that loneliness from WFH or can some be attributed to National lockdowns and limits on social interaction outside your household? In a post Covid world, WFH could involve coworking spaces and cafes. I expect that industry will grow massively over the coming years as we migrate into a more distributed working style. It’s a new way of doing things things and it’s going to take time to adapt and replace the so…

I think the co-working space could grow in some really interesting ways. However, in traditional companies the budget for office space tends to be out of the control of normal employees. People will have to choose between the official office or paying out of pocket. I am not sure how many people will want to do that. Giving employees more choice could save lots of money. But only if managers are prepared to lose some control.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

I'm wondering to what extent social working has to be within a company. A fitness club I was part of a decade ago had this amazing 'cafe' space that was often used by folks with laptops and the odd bit of chat. It felt social. If work anywhere becomes the thing, is there is scope for work 'clubs'? Or without the fitness reason to be there at all, is it a nonstarter?

It sounds like you are describing co-working spaces that have already existed for a few years. Some are subscription, others are drop in (e.g. if you work from home but want to book a nice room for a meeting). I assume each has their own culture depending on their clientele.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

#45
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Flexibility sounds good but what I have seen over the last year is that all boundaries in terms of when and where work begins and ends are being eroded. This started accidentally but it is now being actively exploited on an unprecedented scale.

Work ends when you say goodbye in the chat and switch off the vpn.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

Being home alone in a tiny apartment, the desk placed next to my bed - that's not the home office I want to spend all my time in. With family and house, sure. But I literally don't have the real estate to make a nice home office. Mixed mode works very well tough, I can go to the office if I want and stay home if I want, so I mostly spend 4 days in the office, 1 at home.

I'm in a similar solution - 1br, 1 living room, 1 kitchen, 2 people - so while everyone's been showing off their fortress of solitude, I've spent 12 months at the kitchen table. Watching people on youtube build stylish and spacious home offices has become our new fantasy porn.

I've heard a lot of people saying that companies are going to realise this means they can cut down on their property costs, but far, far fewer mentioning that they're moving the costs for us. We're looking for somewhere with 2-3br so we can dedicate WFH space, and it's going to mean 2-3x our current rent.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

#47

I really much appreciate this aspect of the pandemic. The "home office revolution" has long been possible, but still would not have happened for a long time without COVID.

People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

> lonely single guys like me

Just like every other human being you can socialise with the people around you (unless you live in the middle of the desert with nobody around, in which case I apologise). If that's pathologically impossible due to fear or something along those lines, you need therapy. Working from home isn't taking a toll on you, it's the problems that already existed but that you have ignored.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

#48

I really much appreciate this aspect of the pandemic. The "home office revolution" has long been possible, but still would not have happened for a long time without COVID.

It might really be a liberating moment for people (and economies, but let's care about people first). I don't know the future but I've seen way too much absurd friction in too many workplaces not to believe this can be a good step.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

> lonely single guys like me Just like every other human being you can socialise with the people around you (unless you live in the middle of the desert with nobody around, in which case I apologise). If that's pathologically impossible due to fear or something along those lines, you need therapy. Working from home isn't taking a toll on you, it's the problems that already existed but that you have ignored.

Well right now you can't because of the virus..

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

> lonely single guys like me Just like every other human being you can socialise with the people around you (unless you live in the middle of the desert with nobody around, in which case I apologise). If that's pathologically impossible due to fear or something along those lines, you need therapy. Working from home isn't taking a toll on you, it's the problems that already existed but that you have ignored.

I don’t think this is fair or helpful to OP. Isolation is not fun for a lot of people, myself among them.
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