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Post by JxLS-cpgbe0 »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #529
JxLS-cpgbe0 wrote: post #504

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> anti-trafficing [sic] is usually used to try to criminalize their work I understand you have anecdotes from 2 women which describe non-coerced criminalized sex work, which is not sex trafficking. My information comes from decades of global, publicly available and verified data. Sex trafficking is a real thing, and you delegitimize its victims when you say otherwise. https://2009-2017.state.gov/documents/organizatio…

(you really don't have to put the emphasis on how much you dislike their spelling of trafficking, everyone can see it's a direct quote and it distracts from the rest of your post)

The spelling's wrong, not disliked. To your point--it's poor form to mark the same mistake twice.

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Post by someonehere »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #59
Nacdor wrote: post #8

This is the Reddit "Out of the Loop" thread that sort of explains what's happening: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/mbeycw/whats_... It's still somewhat difficult to find a clear explanation because the admins were banning people who mentioned her by name (despite the fact that she is a public/political figure in the UK). That had an extremely chilling effect on the discussions, but now the Streisand E…

This all feels very witch hunt like to me. If there's any evidence that she's a danger to children, I feel like people should put up or shut up. All I've seen is people slandering her for the actions of her father (proven) and some comments that might have been made by her partner about his own interests (completely unprovable). It's kind of disgusting what conservatives are trying to turn this into without a shred o…

The guy she married posted a lot of rape fantasies of children on his Twitter. Someone connected all the dots and circled around that it’s possible based on actions of known associations.

Someone also mentioned that she lived in the same house at the time her father locked up and tortured the ten year old. If you’re oblivious to someone being tortured under you’re roof, you’re either really naive or part of the problem.

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Post by buisi »

mam2 wrote: post #203
esja wrote: post #140

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I agree, but a minor nitpick: Aimee was forced out not just for being connected to pedophiles, but also for lying about and/or endorsing them (among other issues). A massive failure of safeguarding from the Greens and Lib Dems, and now from Reddit. It's astonishing to me that a person like this can become an admin on a website used by millions of teenagers. We already know that admins can access private messages and…

I am 100% convinced that the rate of pedophile is higher in: - positions of power (we have had a few in france who were judges / party representatives etC...) - any job close to children, which includes in particular schools, but also.. - church Why ? Because if you woke up tommorow as a pedophile, without any morals, and wanted to maximise the "chances" to satisfy your sexual attraction, where would you go ? Exactly…

Well, there are a lot of people who want positions of power, like working as a judge, or having a high position in the government. Undoubtedly, some will turn out to be pedophiles, and / or abusers.

We likely hear a lot of places like Churches, hospitals, and schools, because historically people were pretty quiet about what went on there, and now all these horrible historic revelations are coming out one after another.

I can imagine access to children being a factor too, although actual pedophiles have an instinctual emotional closeness with children which might influence them towards those positions. If any are in those positions and see this, I really hope you don't do anything to anyone there.

The highest frequency of abuse actually happens in none of those places but at home. It is usually a family member who does it. Sometimes, it may even involve drugs, rather than a sexual interest. I'm not very fond of the War on Drugs, as it destroys lives, but I really hope people use drugs responsibly, when / if they do. And we may need better mental health services to reduce the perceived need to rely on alcohol / drugs.

From what I know, pedophilia is a spectrum, which goes from very weak (insignificant and easy to ignore for most intents and purposes) to the exclusive type. There are some sub-types, like ones who are only interested in infants, rather than older children. Pedophiles aren't synonymous with abusers. Many don't abuse.

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Post by thefz »

ALittleLight wrote: post #411
undefined1 wrote: post #10

I find it interesting that Reddit still manages to find themselves invoking the Streisand effect in full force.

One way reddit is strange is that the users and mods seem to hate the admins. Every reddit post I read from the admins the comments are full of people raging at them.

A lot of users hate the mods too.

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Post by tim333 »

LordAtlas wrote: post #528

The Reddit CEO has announced that the employee in question is no longer employed there. https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/mcisdf/an_up... But it's such a weaselly post. First, it admits they didn't vet her before hiring: "We did not adequately vet her background before formally hiring her." Apparently, a basic google search is too difficult for HR. Second, it says this: "On March 9th, we added extra pro…

Screw ups happen I guess. Looks like they got to know her through earlier work and assumed she was ok.

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Post by yawaworht1978 »

andrewzah wrote: post #58
ryandrake wrote: post #26

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They can always just stop using Reddit. Digg went this way, too, and it ended badly for them.

Was digg as big as reddit is now? The issue for me is I don't know of other good places for long-form discussion and good link aggregation in general. Most of the time in smaller subreddits there aren't really any issues. What alternative is there to /r/AskHistorians? Etc.

Stackexchange and maybe Quora.

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Post by mam2 »

koonsolo wrote: post #434
mam2 wrote: post #203

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I am 100% convinced that the rate of pedophile is higher in: - positions of power (we have had a few in france who were judges / party representatives etC...) - any job close to children, which includes in particular schools, but also.. - church Why ? Because if you woke up tommorow as a pedophile, without any morals, and wanted to maximise the "chances" to satisfy your sexual attraction, where would you go ? Exactly…

I had a colleague with a theory that a lot of pedophiles are really in love with the power aspect. There is no bigger power than that what an adult can have over a child. Both physically and mentally. And therefore, they will try to get those positions where they are in power. I don't know if this was ever investivated, but it makes sense to me. Edit: when you look at the dad in this story, raping and torturing a chi…

interesting idea. that said there's a lot of power aspect in basic "adult" sex with bdsm etc...

and in that case the father was dressing as a child when he was torturing the girl according to an article so i'm not sure he was looking specifically for power more than being downright crazy.. but why not

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Post by prepend »

slg wrote: post #256
prepend wrote: post #220

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> pretty insignifiant in the grand scheme of things. It was super significant in that it was evidence that Reddit employees have the ability to edit messages with no audit trail and no governance. So while the individual edit was not important, the fact that it happened was. And there is an unknown number of other edits that were never disclosed and is unprovable. So Reddit broke the one thing it’s supposed to do- al…

>Reddit employees have the ability to edit messages with no audit trail and no governance. How did you come to this conclusion? It is entirely possible that there was an audit trail and governance, spez simply ignored the governance, and he would have been fired after an examination of the audit trail if he was anyone else but the co-founder/CEO.

If someone can ignore the governance process then it’s not an effective governance process.

If there’s not auditing to identify when someone bypasses governance, then that’s not effective auditing.

Assuming effective controls are in place without any description of them and evidence that they fail is foolish, I think.

Reddit could have shown off their governance and audit process, but didn’t. I’ve worked on similar systems where someone can just edit the db records and there have been places with no and decent governance. It’s more likely that anyone with admin rights can change stuff. This is bad for a company as big as Reddit with as many users.

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Post by prepend »

caslon wrote: post #421
prepend wrote: post #229

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> remarkably open every time he's changed user content Are you sarcastic? This is logically a very useless statement due to the nature of trust. Once trust was broken it’s hard to obtain because does clearly lied about other things, why should he be trusted now that he’s been caught. “I’ve been remarkably open about all the extra marital affairs where I’ve been caught, please trust there are no others.” “I’ve been re…

Everything on reddit is archived roughly as soon as it's posted. Any manipulation can therefore be spotted just by looking at an archive.

And who is reviewing the archives for everything, all the time, looking for diffs?

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

esyir wrote: post #526
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #480

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Do such allegations really hold any real water to achieve political ends? I find that every time I read about such matters, it is from some Anglo-Saxon place where emotions about such matters seem to run high. I cannot think of any Dutch occurrence of someone being dismissed from a party alleging any gender discrimination, and I would to what extent such arguments are truly something that sways the Anglo-Saxon, becau…

Is a claim of discrimination as much of a superweapon of discourse in Dutch culture as it is in the US? From what I've experienced, Europeans are a bit less prickly on such matters.

I cannot remember any such counter claims made when similar terminations of politicians occurred in the Netherlands, discrimination or otherwise.

The most similar situation that comes to mind was the situation of Philomena Bijlhout in 2002, who was terminated after having lied about being a member of the Bouterse Militia when the December Murders occurred.

That was that; — he was terminated without any further drama or allegations that it was political gamesmanship, sexism, racism, xenophobia, manipulated evidence or anything else when the pictures that proved his word false surfaced.

I find that U.S.A. and U.K. politicians often have what I would consider petulant blame shifting when such matters occur that I feel are not strategic and only serve to bury them deeper, so I wonder if they actually are strategic in such a political climate of districts which creates far more extensive tribalism and voter loyalty, whereof I wonder if it contributes to actually making such claims worthwhile.

I have noticed that the U.S. and U.K. population seems to be very loyal in general and often unreasonably defend a cause, product, and man to the death, even when flaws are apparent.

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