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Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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Post by turbinerneiter »

sn_master wrote: post #6
Hendrikto wrote: post #3

I really much appreciate this aspect of the pandemic. The "home office revolution" has long been possible, but still would not have happened for a long time without COVID.

People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

Being home alone in a tiny apartment, the desk placed next to my bed - that's not the home office I want to spend all my time in.

With family and house, sure. But I literally don't have the real estate to make a nice home office.

Mixed mode works very well tough, I can go to the office if I want and stay home if I want, so I mostly spend 4 days in the office, 1 at home.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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Post by midasuni »

alexf95 wrote: post #5

A mix of both home-office and going to the actual office is probably the way to go for most companies. Sometimes being in the office just isn't necessary and colleague interaction can be done by phone or chat/video apps. However, going into full time home-office mode isn't great either since you would miss out on the random meetings/talks when you run into each other in the office.

When people are at home and getting on with working you won’t get to run into them at the office.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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Post by waynesonfire »

sn_master wrote: post #6
Hendrikto wrote: post #3

I really much appreciate this aspect of the pandemic. The "home office revolution" has long been possible, but still would not have happened for a long time without COVID.

People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

i'm optimistic here; you're not the only one and society will adapt to this new void if WFH persists. we are after all social and want to spend time with other people.

covid is still very much among us so don't expect much socializing until people feel safe to leave their basements.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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Post by Hendrikto »

sn_master wrote: post #6
Hendrikto wrote: post #3

I really much appreciate this aspect of the pandemic. The "home office revolution" has long been possible, but still would not have happened for a long time without COVID.

People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

Obviously there are also numerous negative effects. That‘s why I qualified my statement like this.

To respond to the point you made: I am a young single guy loving on his own. Still, I do not mind the lockdown so much. Granted, I may not be very representative, but just another data point.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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Post by midasuni »

ruaraidh wrote: post #10
dkarp wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By anywhere, I expect it means anywhere in the UK. The UK doesn’t have “state” taxes like the US, so it won’t matter where they are

This isn't quite true - Scotland's income tax rates are slightly different from the rest of the UK's, so residence inside or outside Scotland is relevant.

But that’s the same now. Work in Carlisle and live in Dumfries and you get a Scottish tax code. Work in Dumfries and live in Carlisle and you get an English one.

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Post by dkarp »

sn_master wrote: post #6
Hendrikto wrote: post #3

I really much appreciate this aspect of the pandemic. The "home office revolution" has long been possible, but still would not have happened for a long time without COVID.

People with friends and family can't gauge how bad of a toll this has taken on lonely single guys like me. For most of them WFH been a Godsend. I really wish this ends or at least there remains enough places which require working from the office.

Is all of that loneliness from WFH or can some be attributed to National lockdowns and limits on social interaction outside your household?

In a post Covid world, WFH could involve coworking spaces and cafes. I expect that industry will grow massively over the coming years as we migrate into a more distributed working style. It’s a new way of doing things things and it’s going to take time to adapt and replace the social side of the office.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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Post by vidarh »

cletus wrote: post #8
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #2

at some hazily defined point work anywhere, anytime becomes work everywhere, all the time.

This reminds me of companies who have “unlimited” vacation days. If I can’t take the next 40 years off at full pay it’s not “unlimited”. A more accurate description is probably “vacation days determined by whether your manager likes you”.

I've turned offers down over that. I will not work for a company that claims "unlimited" vacation, unless they're at least prepared to specify a contractual floor.

Re: Nationwide tells 13,000 staff to 'work anywhere'

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Post by alibarber »

sn_master wrote: post #4

How would that work in terms of taxes? The UK doesn't have taxes based on location like the US?

Just like taxation regimes have scrambled to keep up with the fact that you can order something from abroad and have ambiguity of where the sales tax will be applied - this is the next big thing about to happen:

High skilled, (comparatively) rich, healthy knowledge workers will leave the place they reside, move somewhere like Dubai (no tax, few free public services - doesn't matter they're not going to need them) to work for a company based - on paper, somewhere similarly - meanwhile the sick, aging and destitute back in the old country depend on tax-funded public services that have lost their tax base.

I don't know what the solution is - but it's something I think needs to be considered. Conversely, people might want to move the other way (say to the nordics), but, I'd wager it being heavily skewed in the first direction.

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