There's a theory that says that the factors that increase IQ are the same that, at very high levels, suppress species' innate characteristics, which can cause autism: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271507751_A_Theory_...
High IQs are associated with mental and physical disorders
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#252Dabrowski's overexcitabilities and his theory of positive desintegration is a deep rabbit hole. Simply put, he argued that gifted people transcended levels of humanity through their emotional intensity.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have not addressed any of my points and you're just reiterating a trope without providing any critical reasoning. A person who has contracted Covid and gotten over it is almost assuredly less likely to become contagious again than someone who has had the mRNA therapy but not contracted the actual virus. You have no idea what the long-term risks of RNA therapy are. They are brand new. I might change my mind in 10…
I did directly address your very first trope: that you claim it’s solely a decision for yourself, when it’s not. As for the rest of your complaints, I can’t manage to find the patience or empathy to respond in as productive of a manner as others[1] have already done in this same thread. Good luck to you, wishing you good health. Glad your parents recovered well. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26573727
It very much is, because if you have the gene therapy and you think that protects you more so than your own natural immune system, then you have nothing to worry about from me. You're protected. Anyone else who fears Covid is protected the same. You get to make your choice based on your own personal health choice and risk profile. I get to make my own choice. That we arrive at different conclusions based on our own individual nature, is the beauty of living in a free society.
You have no idea if it causes cancer or Alzheimer's or any other complication down the road and you can't point me to a long term study that proves that because it hasn't been around long enough. As I said before, if in 10 years time there's a long track record of success in the odds of any long term complications are less than my odds of dying in a car wreck, I may change my mind. As it stands, already the AstraZeneca has been paused in numerous countries on account of blood clots. And I've already seen one person get Bells palsy from it.
It's not worth it to me. And I've had plenty of vaccines, but this is gene therapy, it's not a traditional vaccine.
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
What you claim is counter to the intended uses of the tests and their very definitions. One measures innate flgeneral intelligence, whereas the other measures skill or acquired knowledge in a specific area. Then show me some sources to support your argument, because repeating false statements doesn't further your point either. https://www.theclassroom.com/intelligence-tests-vs-aptitude-...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient >The many different kinds of IQ tests include a wide variety of item content. Some test items are visual, while many are verbal. Test items vary from being based on abstract-reasoning problems to concentrating on arithmetic, vocabulary, or general knowledge. The SAT tests abstract reasoning (read a story and answer questions), arithmetic, vocabulary... It's an IQ te…
Then why doesn't the article list the SAT in with the other dozen or so tests? Nor any other aptitude tests?
Not all standardized tests are IQ tests. Just as not all tests involving reasoning, arithmetic, and vocabulary are not IQ tests.
https://prepexpert.com/sat-to-iq/#
https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/12/04/why-should-...
Mensa considers that scores from after January 31, 1994, "No longer correlate with an IQ test."
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
You ever have to watch someone struggle with something you know how to do extremely well? Like watching someone take 5 seconds per keystroke because they have to hunt and peck on the keyboard while slowly and deliberately sounding out the letters they're typing? You know that feeling of wanting to just push them out of the way because you could get whatever completely done by the time they finish the next step in the…
> Now imagine your entire life was that. No, because you should shape your life differently in that case. The people I know who were both intelligent and depressed dramatically improved their life by doing less thinking. Exercise, play a musical instrument, explore nature, help people in need, go after that girl/guy you like. But no. Instead, those aforementioned people spent the majority of their time doing stuff th…
What makes you assume that they don't exercise, play an instrument, etc?
And why is it on the intelligent to "do less thinking" instead of the world to understand that they can't think on the same level?
We don't ask those with extreme physical gifts to sell themselves short in order to accommodate those less gifted. We don't ask those with virtuoso talents to "do less creativity".
Why must those with extreme intellectual gifts "think less"?
That does them and the world a disservice. Why can't we accept them as we accept every other category of people.
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#256Semi tangent: I would really recommend watching "Is Success Luck or Hard Work?" By Veritasium https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I
Is the answer "yes"?
Because I often feel that it's a combination of both. You need luck to get certain opportunities, but fully taking advantage of them or maintaining them requires putting in the work.
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#257There's a theory that says that the factors that increase IQ are the same that, at very high levels, suppress species' innate characteristics, which can cause autism: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271507751_A_Theory_...
I've seen/heard about that or something similar. It makes me think that autism is essentially intelligence overclocked to the point of short-circuiting.
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> people insecure enough to join an IQ-restricted club I don't understand this sentiment. There are race/ethnicity-restricted clubs, men-only clubs, athletic clubs, equestrian clubs, farmers clubs, car ownership clubs. However, when it's about IQ (something which you say you hold in disdain), suddenly out come the insults. Insecure nerds, right? They only have their insignificant test scores, they must be a despicabl…
A score on a test doesn't imply enough for you to actually have things in common. (However, just being in a secret club might motivate you enough to find some things to talk about.) You can get the Mensa experience without joining by having a Quora account - their AI always picks the oddest topics to send to you. For the longest time it would send me all the "what's it like to have a high IQ?" questions and I noticed…
Some people prefer face to face interaction.
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> but maybe people insecure enough to join an IQ-restricted club are more likely to be those who suffer from setbacks in other parts of their lives. to me this reads similar to the old misconception that all bullies are insecure (it's often quite the opposite). what makes you think that people engaging in a group based on what they feel is a big part of their identity are insecure? Do you think gay people in pride pa…
> Do you think gay people in pride parades, minorities in various race groups, etc are insecure? Well, uh, yeah, sort of.. I thought the whole point of gay/ethnic/etc pride events was to overcome the insecurity caused by marginalization in society. Is that not the case?
People like celebrating their roots even if they don't feel insecure.
Overcoming shame is part of gay pride. But it was also a way to overcome marginalization. And lots of people go just to have fun now.
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Adopting a sedentary lifestyle isn't very smart. You'd think a club of high-IQ folk would know better.
A good example is that world chess champions are actually very athletic, especially the Soviet ones in the past and Magnus Carlsen today. My FAANG experience is that people like outdoor sports and going to the gym too, I wonder where all the Linux con t-shirts and drinking Jolt cola people went…
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