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Re: Gnome 40

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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker https://jayfax.neocities.org/mediocrity/gnome-has-no-thumbna...

Clearly this isn't an issue that people care about enough to do anything about, otherwise someone would have gone and implemented it.

I wish things worked worked like that. That users could actually tell you exactly what would make their lives easier. Even more: that they would go ahead and implement those things themselves!

Good software design encompasses listening to and talking with users, and actually discovering what they need, where their pain points are, etc. They won't tell you explicitly.

Apart from being a software developer, i'm also a user of course. I use GNOME every day, and even though i'm affected by this, i haven't found the time, patience and dedication to actually go and try to fix it. I understand that the GNOME developers might not have the time either. But it's not like this issue does not exist, or that it's not important.

And if i, and many people who see this as an issue and could potentially fix it, don't do it, then how can we expect that non-technical users would?

I have tried to teach my mother how to copy files between devices countless times in Windows. It's not an easy task for someone who hasn't grown using a computer. I'd love to advocate for more people to use Linux, but i won't, because each little thing like not being able to see the image whumbnails when picking files can be a road-blocker for non-technical people, and add up quickly.

Re: Gnome 40

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post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I actually went to GNOME's IRC network the other day to talk to them about gtkfilechooser's multiple problems. Yours, and then the lack of text input for typing or pasting file paths. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/938 . They said they have no one assigned to gtkfilechooser bugs and none will be addressed. I was able to download the debian source for a couple gtk applications (ie, gedit/pluma) and ap…

the main text entry ("Name", the one that starts out focused) lets you type/paste paths.

Not in GTk 3.24.5.

Re: Gnome 40

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post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly this isn't an issue that people care about enough to do anything about, otherwise someone would have gone and implemented it.

I loathe this line of thinking. Yes, "It's FOSS, go fork it" and all that malarkey. Painting with broad strokes: MacOS and others make money on things being polished, consistent and understandable. They don't get to use their hacker blinders and say "Who needs a GUI for that" or act like Firefox and rearrange the UI every six months. Thus, often times, the usability of OSes with a financial incentive for broad access…

And this feature is in PopOS 20.04 which iirc is a GNOME desktop, so someone did care enough about this and created a polished desktop environment with it.

Re: Gnome 40

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I would like to thank the Gnome community for this release! I can't wait to upgrade to Fedora 34 to use it. I use Mac OS daily on my work computer and Gnome daily on my personal computer. Yes, I know there are a lot of Linux open source applications that are not very polished, but the quality in Gnome and its core applications is extremely high. There are even some things that Gnome does better than Mac OS. Now, you…

This comment made me feel a bit guilty. Yes it is truly very easy to judge and forget that people work to deliver a useful tool for free. Thanks Gnome!

Re: Gnome 40

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post #131
post #105

GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker https://jayfax.neocities.org/mediocrity/gnome-has-no-thumbna...

Clearly this isn't an issue that people care about enough to do anything about, otherwise someone would have gone and implemented it.

Or alternative: Gnome devs are OK with missing basic functionality and a broken experience for 2 decades on, otherwise one of them would have gone and implemented it.

Re: Gnome 40

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post #131
post #105

GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker https://jayfax.neocities.org/mediocrity/gnome-has-no-thumbna...

Clearly this isn't an issue that people care about enough to do anything about, otherwise someone would have gone and implemented it.

There are several submitted patches that add this functionality on the bug report but Gnome developers have not merged them. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154&

Re: Gnome 40

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post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loathe this line of thinking. Yes, "It's FOSS, go fork it" and all that malarkey. Painting with broad strokes: MacOS and others make money on things being polished, consistent and understandable. They don't get to use their hacker blinders and say "Who needs a GUI for that" or act like Firefox and rearrange the UI every six months. Thus, often times, the usability of OSes with a financial incentive for broad access…

And this feature is in PopOS 20.04 which iirc is a GNOME desktop, so someone did care enough about this and created a polished desktop environment with it.

Ah yes, System76, that other company that is trying to make money on hardware and creating a competitive advantage with a polished UX. Thank you for providing my case with evidence.

Re: Gnome 40

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I actually went to GNOME's IRC network the other day to talk to them about gtkfilechooser's multiple problems. Yours, and then the lack of text input for typing or pasting file paths. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/938 . They said they have no one assigned to gtkfilechooser bugs and none will be addressed. I was able to download the debian source for a couple gtk applications (ie, gedit/pluma) and ap…

Purely out of curiosity, what else is the Gtk team currently working on? People have been complaining about the file chooser for years. I'd be willing to donate a good chunk of money just to support "basic UX" improvements to FOSS software and toolkits like Gtk. Should we start a "Fix the Gtk file chooser" Gofundme?

The GTK team is like 3 people. GTK4 worked on improved cross-platform support, effecient gpu rendering, documentation, sandbox integration, etc.

UI designers are probably limited and there is just a lot of drama about the filechooser so it's easy to find other things to work on.

Re: Gnome 40

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post #119

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> the horizontal workspaces work pretty well Like on all the other desktops?

AFAIK, most DEs place virtual desktops horizontally or in a grid, and I'm actually not aware of any other DEs that dynamically add new desktops as you use them rather than statically defining them up front.

I believe the pantheon[1] DE has dynamic workspaces (virtual desktops) as well.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_OS

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