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Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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What did Stallman do specifically? Why is it always so hard to find out what someone actually said or did when they are being cancelled?

Stallman seems to have a history of being manipulative and sexually harassing women. https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-appendix... He also has some troubling views that at best make him an inappropriate spokesperson. https://rms-open-letter.github.io/appendix

> "He regularly and repeatedly makes comments about “the dishonest law that labels sex with adolescents as ‘rape’ even if they are willing.”

I'm a gay man who is into older men.

When I was in highschool I intentionally sought out men in their 20s and 30s.

Cross generational relationships are a sexual preference and can be just as fulfilling and last just as long as any other.

Sometimes the younger person has more money and is the one paying for everything. Really. I should know. I've been that younger person. It's really just like any other relationship. We laugh, love, and have deep meaningful emotional connections.

These antiquated stereotypes of a mustache twirling abusive old pervert preying on the naive country bumpkin has to go.

The vast majority simply aren't like that. There's creeps, sure, but there's creepy people everywhere.

A 17 year old in love with a 30 year old shouldn't come with secrecy, shame and judgemental speculation. I had enough of that when I was young.

Let us emerge from the shadows. We've been here all along.

RMS is saying there shouldn't be prison sentences for love. Abuse is a relationship dynamic, not a function of the age of the participants.

Hit me up if you want to have me fired over my sexual orientation as well, email info is on my contact page. I'll mail you my manager's info.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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post #38

Glad to see that Mozilla refuses to tolerate neurodiversity. Socially awkward people deserve to be permanently ostracized from society, am I right? I'm proud to use a web browser developed by people who offer no quarter to autists, schizos, and the rest of them loonies; if they wanted inclusion, they should just stop being mentally unwell - it's all in their heads, after all! Thank you, Mitchell Baker, very cool. (/s…

This is ableist nonsense. First, nobody is ostracizing Stallman for being socially awkward. He is being ostracized for sexual harassment. Second, neurodiversity and social awkwardness don't excuse you being an asshole, from being a bully, or from being a danger. I think most people, whether neurodiverse or not, understand that. Finally, does he have an autism diagnosis? Just like with the recent tragic Atlanta shooti…

Sexual Harassment can mean anything to these usurpers.

What it probably means is a big, fat, ugly nerd tried his hand at flirting. Didn't go so well. A little bit of awkwardness for both parties ensured. End of story.

Long Live RS!

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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I hope Richard Stallman becomes the director again and fires every SJW at the FSF. If you don't fire these people they will fire you.

I hope RS rapes all the SJW's and gets them pregnant. Then maybe they could produce something useful for the world.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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post #16

I want to like Firefox. It is at least a tolerable alternative to Chrome. But the Mozilla foundation just taints it. Every time they come out with one of their sanctimonious PR releases they make me want to have less to do with them. I think they've completely lost their focus. I end up bouncing between Chrome, Firefox, and Brave. Brave makes me the happiest, but it's a minor player, and I'm worried about it's long-t…

Well, to me personally this might be the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back. Time to ditch Firefox and switch to Brave for good.

I switched to brave on desktop and mobile and couldn't be happier. They're willing to try and push new boundaries if you're into the whole crypto domain.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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Comments in this thread represent what’s wrong with the industry. The article references sexual harassment, the commenters care about market share. Did you know it’s important to hold people accountable more, the more power they have? It’s one thing if you disagree, but making it about “winners” and “losers” and not about victims is how we ended up creating toxic workplaces.

the sexual harassment was asking women at conferences on dates

He's obviously an animal, devoid of all reason./sarcasm

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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As a very liberal person, I have to say that I am disgusted by cancel culture. Disgusted. This is so harmful to society, and is a dark path that the left has taken in my country. To put it plainly, my political party has turned into whinny little people. People should lose their jobs over things like sexual or any type of harassment but when I read Stallman's actual comments last year, I thought that it was very clea…

A plethora of women have come forward, with their stories of sexual harassment and manipulation by RMS. (See links in other posts; e.g. the first link in the open letter's appendix.)

This isn't just about him describing a "sex trafficking victim" as "entirely willing", and hence not a victim of "sexual assault". This is wrong on so many levels.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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post #22

What did Stallman do specifically? Why is it always so hard to find out what someone actually said or did when they are being cancelled?

Stallman seems to have a history of being manipulative and sexually harassing women. https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-appendix... He also has some troubling views that at best make him an inappropriate spokesperson. https://rms-open-letter.github.io/appendix

Yeah I saw that, but I didn’t see anything that he did specifically.

It seems he said some things that one might disagree with which is fair enough but saying it’s sexual harassment seems like a stretch IMO.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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post #47

Please make this post link to the freely available open letter/ petition, instead of the pay walled article about it. Also change the title to "Petition to oust RMS from FSF board" https://rms-open-letter.github.io/ It's an impressive list of names, of whom I know a few personally and hold in high regards. At this point I'm VERY curious to how RMS and the folks that requested him to come back to the FSF have to say i…

The letter got posted yesterday and flagged (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26558348), which is probably why it can't be posted again, because of HN's dupe policies. But it was also posted basically immediately when the site was created, when the list of signatures was much smaller. So there wasn't any meaningful discussion of the list of folks who signed it, because they hadn't signed it yet.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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post #47

Please make this post link to the freely available open letter/ petition, instead of the pay walled article about it. Also change the title to "Petition to oust RMS from FSF board" https://rms-open-letter.github.io/ It's an impressive list of names, of whom I know a few personally and hold in high regards. At this point I'm VERY curious to how RMS and the folks that requested him to come back to the FSF have to say i…

“ I'm not fully aware of what he did, and to what extend he hold on to being a "misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among other serious accusations of impropriety". Hence I look fwd to a defense.”

You don’t know what he did. But you look forward to seeing his defence...?

One of the large problems of cancel culture is people, like you, who jump on the bandwagon without really knowing the context or what the person actually did.

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