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Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#22

What did Stallman do specifically? Why is it always so hard to find out what someone actually said or did when they are being cancelled?

Stallman seems to have a history of being manipulative and sexually harassing women. https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-appendix...

He also has some troubling views that at best make him an inappropriate spokesperson.

https://rms-open-letter.github.io/appendix

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#24

What did Stallman do specifically? Why is it always so hard to find out what someone actually said or did when they are being cancelled?

He was (((white))) and a not quite black enough student needed a scalp for her future career.

It pays to destroy lives: https://www.linkedin.com/in/selamjie

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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post #8
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share Firefox is irrelevant. Which explains why they support things like this. If you can't win by building better software you can win by bullying anyone else who does.

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share Last I checked, ~4% is greater than Edit: It seemed pretty clear to me that, in the context of web browser usage , wmf was referring to GNU/Linux desktop usage, not server usage.

Wait android isn't linux? Not a mobile dev, just always thought it was linux..

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#27

What did Stallman do specifically? Why is it always so hard to find out what someone actually said or did when they are being cancelled?

Many things, over many years. The free software community was deeply unhappy with him for a long while. Here's a subset:

http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2019/10/15/fsf-rms.html

https://wingolog.org/archives/2019/10/08/thoughts-on-rms-and...

https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/52587.html

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25193674

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21000374

The immediate pressure for him to resign was a media firestorm over his Epstein comments, but that wouldn't have done anything had he not already lost the support of the free software community by then.

(BTW, the answer to why it's so hard: every single reply giving you an answer has been downvoted, and the only reply that's staying up is the one that implies people want to be vague. I've been getting downvoted for providing actual answers often enough that HN blocks me for commenting for a bit. So if you are having trouble finding answers, remember the reason is censorship.)

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#28

Once you have been painted with the scarlet letter of cancel culture, you may never return to before, and your mistakes will haunt, and people will hound you for it, for the rest of your days.

Never apologize, always double down.

It's the only way to win against these people.

It's amazing how they squirm when you start digging into their lives.

Observe: the not quite black enough woman who needed to destroys someone so she would be taken seriously: https://www.linkedin.com/in/selamjie

Her and her blogging friends will keep destroying anyone they deem unacceptable until there it stops paying for them to keep doing it.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#29
post #8
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share Firefox is irrelevant. Which explains why they support things like this. If you can't win by building better software you can win by bullying anyone else who does.

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share Last I checked, ~4% is greater than Edit: It seemed pretty clear to me that, in the context of web browser usage , wmf was referring to GNU/Linux desktop usage, not server usage.

GNU/Linux is not limited to Desktop. It's magnitudes more relevant than Mozilla.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

#30
As a very liberal person, I have to say that I am disgusted by cancel culture. Disgusted.

This is so harmful to society, and is a dark path that the left has taken in my country. To put it plainly, my political party has turned into whinny little people.

People should lose their jobs over things like sexual or any type of harassment but when I read Stallman's actual comments last year, I thought that it was very clear that he was only defending his friend, who was dead and couldn't defend himself.

EDIT: for what it is worth, I just uninstalled Firefox.

EDIT #2: I just rejoined the FSF (well, I was still a member, I just started donating again).

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