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Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
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Re: Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
#42I'm all for redistributing fab capacity geographically. But I thought it became concentrated in Asia because of the lower cost for high quality engineers due to LCOL. How will Intel change this equation to make it profitable in other geographic regions?
Re: Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
#43This could be great. Personal anecdote time, when I was using ESP32 there were some things it couldn't handle due to a very unconfigurable WiFi interface -- captive portal advertisement via DHCP specifically. (Before people get their knickers in a twist, it was connecting to a box that had no internet access, so there was no hostage situation there.) It turns out there are basically no open source or even American options that replace that chip. A lack of competition leads to a stymied market.
Re: Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
#44This have been bothering me for a while. What would happen if for any reasons the biggest fabs are destroyed? It would take years to get more than half of a century of accumulated knowledge just from patents, and that's not even counting industrial secrets and all the economical machine needed to support such an industry.
There have been projects focused on securing Humanity's technological knowledge in case of a worldwide calamity like GitHub storing all its source code in microfilms, but I can't think of any project entirely focused on building from scratch and kick-starting the industrial motor of modern civilization.
Re: Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
#45I'm all for redistributing fab capacity geographically. But I thought it became concentrated in Asia because of the lower cost for high quality engineers due to LCOL. How will Intel change this equation to make it profitable in other geographic regions?
I guess that if the US gov begins offering skilled VISAs, that’d help.
Re: Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
#46Wow he really said that. Kinda stupid if you ask me, people may take it personally. This is why when you mean "We need a more distributed supply chain" you say "we need a more distributed supply chain" and don't single out a geoethnic region.
> and don't single out a geoethnic region. He didn't. Asia is a continent, and it's no different than saying the biggest consumer of hot dogs is North America. I'm Asian, fwiw.
Asia is not a continent though, more like “other worlds that don’t speak Indo-European languages”
Re: Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
#47I'm all for redistributing fab capacity geographically. But I thought it became concentrated in Asia because of the lower cost for high quality engineers due to LCOL. How will Intel change this equation to make it profitable in other geographic regions?
>How will Intel change this equation to make it profitable in other geographic regions?
Let me introduce you to this little thing called an H1B visa...
Re: Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
#48I'm all for redistributing fab capacity geographically. But I thought it became concentrated in Asia because of the lower cost for high quality engineers due to LCOL. How will Intel change this equation to make it profitable in other geographic regions?
What fraction of a fab’s costs are labour today versus twenty years ago?
Re: Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
#49I'm all for redistributing fab capacity geographically. But I thought it became concentrated in Asia because of the lower cost for high quality engineers due to LCOL. How will Intel change this equation to make it profitable in other geographic regions?
Cost of living is 20% lower in San Jose, Costa Rica (location of Intel manufacturing plant) compared to TSMC in Taiwan.
Re: Intel chief Pat Gelsinger: Too many chips made in Asia
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess he's not used to political speech, as he has more technical experience. He needs to get used to picking his words more carefully.
Isn’t he being politically aware by not naming the Asian country ? Because as a technical person what’s the concern if a lot of chips are made in the continent of Asia
Asia, in addition to being a continent, is an interlocked geopolitical sphere, with concerns like local wars, which can be amortized over by having factories in several countries too far apart to fight each other practically.