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Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by mancerayder »

LatteLazy wrote: post #457
mancerayder wrote: post #287

Why is censorship regularly put in quotation marks by the press?

People immediately say "Censorship isn't censorship if...".

That's what the problem is. Censorship is defined as limiting or removing content. It doesn't mean it's always illegal or legal, or morally correct or immoral, but because it has a bad connotation, and there's a pro-censorship (let's be honest) Zeitgeist at the moment, the press (the same press that should be fighting against most forms of censorship) has this desire to numb the effect of the word with quotes. Like it's not really censorship, it's, oh, eye-roll, "censorship."

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Post by peytn »

_jal wrote: post #294
auser1231232 wrote: post #181

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> I'm sorry -- are Trump supporters not able to speak any more? The subreddit was banned, Donald Trump was banned from Twitter, a very popular conservative social media platform was kicked off of its hosting providers, etc. Regardless of your political views, it is abundantly clear that certain viewpoints and opinions are being suppressed, which is fundamentally contradictory to free speech and American values.

> which is fundamentally contradictory to free speech and American values Freedom of association is a deeply American concept. Within certain parameters, I can ban anyone I want from my business. The problem here is that certain entitled people feel entitled to use other peoples' property as their own. Also... just noting that many of those same users went on to do arguably the most unAmerican thing in American histo…

Political activity retaliation is a bit different from standard freedom of association concerns. You can plug your ears and go “not listening,” but there’s a real debate to be had about where it fits in the spirit of our country.

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Post by notJim »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #331
notJim wrote: post #251

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> The new design collapses all responses below the second level I don't follow. I just opened a random comment thread, and counted comments being shown up to seven levels deep (which was the deepest comment.) Is the behavior you describe only if you're logged out or something?

Do you have the old Reddit UI saved in your preferences? If so, you might be seeing the site as it used to be, and not as it now is for the vast majority of users.

I don't think so. What I see is this: https://imgur.com/a/BalUOOP. The screenshot only shows 5 levels deep, but it goes 9 if I scroll down more.

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Post by _-david-_ »

nindalf wrote: post #200
caslon wrote: post #174

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What's the harm in such a pointless joke? It was silly, but it's not like the meme subreddit he did it to was a super serious one like AskHistorians is.

I get where you're coming from, but to the users of the_donald, it wasn't a meme subreddit. They thought they were the main reason he got elected in 2016 and were looking forward to playing a similarly pivotal role in 2020.

Steve Huffman: "I’m confident that Reddit could sway elections"

https://bgr.com/2018/03/12/reddit-election-interference-stev...

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Post by astrange »

_ktx2 wrote: post #486
astrange wrote: post #475

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/r/politics is extremely US "normie Democrat voter" (which does not align with the actual party, it's different and sometimes worse) but the popular financial subs like WSB/investing certainly aren't. This is just a passing trend though, 10 years ago everyone on the internet was libertarian. Which is how you knew the internet wasn't real. Nobody's actually a libertarian in real life.

> Nobody's actually a libertarian in real life. I'm going to assume what you mean is that nobody lives entirely by Libertarian ideals. While that may be true, it's true of every other political category as well, so I guess nobody is anything under that logic.

Almost nobody claims to be a libertarian or gets elected by the party. Justin Amash and Ron Paul are maybe the only famous politicians.

On the internet there's that political compass site that tells people they're libertarians, but it was made by libertarians so I think it's a recruiting tool.

But it's also true that people don't practice it in real life. Drug legalization, yes, that's going somewhere if slowly, but the right wing libertarians still tend to be NIMBY in local politics.

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Post by [deleted] »

whymauri wrote: post #446
exar0815 wrote: post #419

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Well, there is also the fact that Ellen Pao, former Reddit CEO, is linked to Partys by Epstein.[1] Also, there was a lot of circumstantial evidence alleging Ghislaine Maxwell was a powerful mod on reddit, with a very disgusting collection of "evidence"[2] [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/ghislaine-maxwell-attended-k... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/hnckn0/umaxwellhil...

Ellen Pao's tweetstorm about Epstein was so bizarre. I honestly viewed her as a good ally and champion for a lot of my values. Seeing her casually divest that she mingled with Epstein and co. completely shattered that. How can you advocate for women's rights and inclusion while fraternizing with Epstein and not seeing anything wrong with that... man, it bummed me out.

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Post by mansion7 »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #52

Reddit has addressed the situation here, in a mealy mouthed sort of way: https://www.reddit.com/r/modsupport/comments/mbqgx2 However they seem to be denying the accusations that admins (possibly including the individual in question) were manually editing contents containing her name. This whole situation is incredibly bizarre to me. In the first place, why would reddit hire a 23 year old admin whose greatest accompli…

One can be forgiven a lot of one's politics are correct, especially if one has the mitigating status of minority status, even if it's a minority status that one grants oneself and no one is allowed to question.

We've just witnessed two celebrities on the same show, make tweets comparing a political situation to Nazism. Only one was fired for it.

One was conservative, the other liberal. If you immediately knew that one kept their job based purely on that description, the question of why Reddit would hire such a disastrous individual becomes much less mysterious.

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

fl0wenol wrote: post #458
duxup wrote: post #246

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It's not entirely different, but at least in a democracy a politician still has to mingle with their party members / tries / does, maybe even try to get some votes. Admins, sub moderators, don't have to at all. Not that I think there's a way to force that, but the disconnect is still there. Agreed about the folks who want power. When I moderated a large forum and we picked new moderators we had a rule where anyone wh…

TBH it was one of the things I liked about Slashdot. Essentially everyone was thrown into a pool and was expected to moderate, but it was completely random. You also got thrown into a pool to meta-moderate. Those whose meta-moderation scores were good and didn't let the tokens expire too often were thrown into the moderation pool more often. It was pretty difficult to game without a lot of sock-puppet accounts.

The problem with a self-moderating community is that it quickly turns into a circlejerking echo chamber that does not tolerate dissent.

Democracy of course also tends to lead to this, and there are few countries on the planet that do not look back at what said country censored a mere century back, and consider such censorship abhorrent and unreasonable, and so shall everything censored today by law be considered as well in the future.

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