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Re: Gnome 40

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Post by JasonFruit »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #124
hojjat12000 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a dead meme. Boring and annoying specially to the Gnome developers. I have used Gnome for many years now. Never have this been an issue. If you look at the issue tracker[1], they are open to pull requests to add the thumbnail, we just need one person who cares about this feature! There are many other issues with Gnome that actually is their decision and it is a problem. This specific one is a GTK issue. But f…

That seems excessively dismissive; it's hardly a dead meme while the issue remains open, boring only to the GNOME developers who have decided that little things like what users want is irrelevant, annoying only because it's been a decade with zero attempt at a solution . It's nice that you never use this feature, but unhelpful to others who do. And yes, it's terribly generous of them to be willing to consider merging…

But, you know, that's how it works: the problem doesn't get fixed unless someone both a) cares, and b) can do something about it. Why would a developer who isn't getting paid do work they don't care about? If you're interested, maybe you can finally be the person who cares and does the work.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by rubyist5eva »

I installed the Fedora 34 Beta yesterday, and I am really impressed. I thought the move to a horizontal workspace from years of using the vertical one would be a big change but it really feels quite a lot better. Everything is also just snappier, more responsive and smoother overall - probably in no small part due to GTK4 being hardware accelerated now.

Overall system performance is fantastic so far with Fedora 34, super excited to keep tinkering with it.

Great work by the Gnome Team, and I'm super excited for the future of Gnome!

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by tasuki »

christophilus wrote: post #90
Aardwolf wrote: post #14

The open windows don't even have visible taskbar buttons in the fancy presentation it shows at the top I have no idea how you can productively work that way The reason for getting 4K monitors is not to have less stuff that can make you productive visible KDE 3.5 was the top of OSS desktops, in my opinion

I guess that's why we have options. I like Gnome. It's by far my favorite DE. I don't want my screen cluttered up with stuff. I know what I've got running, and finding anything is really easy: Super + type whatever I'm thinking, and presto, it's there.

> Super + type whatever I'm thinking, and presto, it's there.

I often have several windows of the same application open at the same time (particularly browser and terminal). When I want to switch from say the IDE to the _right_ browser window, how do I do that in Gnome? (I use Workspace Matrix[0] as I'm a visual type, and that works for me, but perhaps there's a better way?)

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by anthk »

ufo wrote: post #15

I love that they are making the compose key feature more discoverable. It's the best way to type strange characters like å, ř or ©.

If you are a Romance language speaker you get tired of the local layout fast, specially for programming. A lot of people use the US+compose key for accents/ñ.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by pseudalopex »

legulere wrote: post #98
ogre_codes wrote: post #44

Been a few years since I’ve used Gnome, I hadn’t realized they’d pivoted so much to following MacOS. It looks like they’ve taken a lot of the best parts of MacOS and built something really nice atop it.

I have the feeling it also happened the other way around as well. When Gnome 3 came out the big buttons and huge whitespace seemed ridiculous, especially with Big Sur MacOS looks very similar.

Apple doing it doesn't make it better.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by mikevm »

Gnome really needs a way to restore windows after restart (especially Nautilus windows with tabs), otherwise using multiple workspaces becomes annoying as soon as Ubuntu performs an upgrade that requires you to restart. Mac OS handles this pretty well.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by eyelidlessness »

onnnon wrote: post #127
eyelidlessness wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t personally use Launchpad but I can definitely imagine it’s useful for some. While it obviously took its design from iOS, it’s also a throwback to At Ease[1], which I definitely saw used widely when it was available. And I no longer use Mission Control/Expose, but I certainly did find it useful on smaller screens (I now use a comically large 43” 4k@1x). Same with multiple desktops, and I’ve seen it used on nea…

Screen sharing does seem like a very good use-case for multiple desktops.

I just meant, I see a lot of coworkers switching desktops in general, which I see on screen shares because we’re all remote.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by jeroenhd »

hctaw wrote: post #131
oshanz wrote: post #105

GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker https://jayfax.neocities.org/mediocrity/gnome-has-no-thumbna...

Clearly this isn't an issue that people care about enough to do anything about, otherwise someone would have gone and implemented it.

I'm annoyed but not annoyed enough to learn proper Glib C for so I can fix it. I can probably make it work if I tried, but my attempts would never get accepted back into the code base because of the terrible mess I'd turn the code into.

This issue is one of the things that a normal, non-technical user would run into if they'd ever try Linux. If the file picker can't even get feature parity with Windows XP's, you're not attracting a lot of growth.

I'm fine with waiting for someone to eventually fix it in Gnome 8 or 9, but this is a real usability issue that indicates an entire area of the framework can use some work.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by cosarara »

hojjat12000 wrote: post #121
oshanz wrote: post #105

GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker https://jayfax.neocities.org/mediocrity/gnome-has-no-thumbna...

This is a dead meme. Boring and annoying specially to the Gnome developers. I have used Gnome for many years now. Never have this been an issue. If you look at the issue tracker[1], they are open to pull requests to add the thumbnail, we just need one person who cares about this feature! There are many other issues with Gnome that actually is their decision and it is a problem. This specific one is a GTK issue. But f…

> we just need one person who cares about this feature

Uh no. There have been at least 3 separate attempts at implementing this. One of them actually lives as a fork on github, and it works. None of them have been merged. The gtk devs don't care.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by ogre_codes »

vetinari wrote: post #118
ogre_codes wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, it feels like everything is turning into what Linux was 10 years ago. MacOS is better, but the increasing dominance of Electron and Java apps which bring their own UIs into whatever eco-system they encounter is very frustrating. If you are stuck running MS apps on the Mac, they are their own micro-cosm as well.

This was always the case: MS Office used its own widgets since about 1995 on both platforms; Adobe has their own UI controls, and even Apple used custom/dark themes and controls for their pro apps since about forever. The current state of Apple App Store app is just the cherry on the top.

I don’t use Adobe, so for me, the big culprit has always been MS Office and I’ve been able to mostly avoid it for years. I’m looking more at Slack, VSCode, and other “Essential” apps which have displaced Mac Native tools like BBEdit and if you squint hard, Adium.
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