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Post by tomp »

tyho wrote: post #139
brabel wrote: post #86

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> due to her connections to multiple pedophiles? You mean, her own father? The article says her fiancee also had been accused of saying he feels attracted to children but they claim his account was hacked, which may be true as no one in their right mind would tweet something like that.

Stop defending pedophile apologists before you know the full facts of the case. Her father raped and tortured (a car battery was involved) a ten year old. This happened over multiple days whilst the child was tied to the rafters in the attic of the family home. This is the same house Aimee Chancellor was living in at the time. But she claims she didn't know and she was not on trial. Regardless, during the trial photo…

> during the trial photos of Aimee with the victim were discovered

> he claimed that these were only fantasies

This are some pretty serious accusations, and the situation is much more fucked up if true (i.e. she shouldn't just be fired, more likely jailed).

Do you have any sources to back them up?

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Post by Dma54rhs »

phreack wrote: post #150

Why did they even hire such a controversial person in the first place? It's baffling how they're doubling down on defending her after her previous actions. I wonder if this'll all cool down in a couple of days with everyone forgetting about this or if there'll be a new established rhetoric in inflammatory communities like 'reddit admins are confirmed pedophiles'.

Good PR, trans activist etc.

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Post by koonsolo »

mam2 wrote: post #203
esja wrote: post #140

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I agree, but a minor nitpick: Aimee was forced out not just for being connected to pedophiles, but also for lying about and/or endorsing them (among other issues). A massive failure of safeguarding from the Greens and Lib Dems, and now from Reddit. It's astonishing to me that a person like this can become an admin on a website used by millions of teenagers. We already know that admins can access private messages and…

I am 100% convinced that the rate of pedophile is higher in: - positions of power (we have had a few in france who were judges / party representatives etC...) - any job close to children, which includes in particular schools, but also.. - church Why ? Because if you woke up tommorow as a pedophile, without any morals, and wanted to maximise the "chances" to satisfy your sexual attraction, where would you go ? Exactly…

I had a colleague with a theory that a lot of pedophiles are really in love with the power aspect. There is no bigger power than that what an adult can have over a child. Both physically and mentally.

And therefore, they will try to get those positions where they are in power. I don't know if this was ever investivated, but it makes sense to me.

Edit: when you look at the dad in this story, raping and torturing a child seems more like the power aspect than the sexual one.

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Post by notsureaboutpg »

newsclues wrote: post #375
darkhorse13 wrote: post #349

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It's seriously a shame you are being downvoted for this comment.

Odd, was it critical of Reddit or the appearance of being anti pornography (I’m just extremely anti child porn and other things like sex slavery/trafficking).

So what if you were anti pornography? One of the many many many problems with pornography is that it often crosses the line into violence, promoting illegal sexual fantasies, actual human trafficking and crimes, etc. Etc.

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Post by jefftk »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #285
jefftk wrote: post #195

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> However they seem to be denying the accusations that admins (possibly including the individual in question) were manually editing contents containing her name. Are you talking about replacing contents / titles with "[Removed by Reddit]"? That's the "Content Removed by Reddit Admins" category in https://www.redditinc.com/policies/transparency-report-2020-...

According to the r/UKpolitics moderator that got banned, one of their comments was manually edited multiple times (first to change the content of the comment, then to fix typos in previous edits)[1]. Reddit hasn't refuted this. From context I've seen elsewhere, my guess is that the mod posted the text of the Spectator article in its entirely as a comment on their submission. Then, someone edited out the sentence whic…

> first to change the content of the comment, then to fix typos in previous edits

Does anyone have screenshots showing these various states?

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Post by GauntletWizard »

meddlepal wrote: post #412
markdown wrote: post #366

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> It's a huge deal that the CEO has edit permissions in the main Reddit site database Surely you jest! Do you know how programs work? You don't think HN comments can't be edited by anyone with access to the DB and permission to make changes? Frankly the idea that people on HN thought that people who run a website can't edit the content on it is one of the most bizarre, disingenuous things I've read on here. You all k…

At a technical level it is always possible somehow but the point people are trying to make is that there should be access controls and protocols in place. The CEO should not have absolute unconstrained access in all matters.

The person I would trust the least to run raw SQL at (easy to find if you care) has the most privilege to do so: The "Growth Hacker" business operations person. Probably reddit is among the few companies where the CEO is technical enough to be doing raw SQL queries themselves, but it's trivial for a CEO to generate a purpose for credentials to be stored in their remit: Business reports. The bizops people with direct ties to the CEO will do whatever they're asked.

Still, agreed - The fact that they've now shown, multiple times, to have insufficient auditing and repercussions for the administrative abuse is sobering.

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Post by topspin »

swayvil wrote: post #414

This post just got removed from the front page. Reddit isn't the only place with a censorship problem.

Yep. 4 hours old with almost 500 comments and it's been disappeared.

The best possible outcome is for Knight to take all of these highly selective champions of free speech to the cleaners in court for 'harassment.'

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Post by VectorLock »

fnordfnordfnord wrote: post #266
VectorLock wrote: post #74

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There are legions of people who would be frothing at the mouth for the opportunity to be given mod on a popular subreddit.

Yeah and quite a large fraction of those should probably never be granted mod powers over even something as insignificant as a subreddit.

I don't disagree with you but the point is that is entirely within Reddit's discretion, not ours.

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Post by esja »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #359
esja wrote: post #140

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I agree, but a minor nitpick: Aimee was forced out not just for being connected to pedophiles, but also for lying about and/or endorsing them (among other issues). A massive failure of safeguarding from the Greens and Lib Dems, and now from Reddit. It's astonishing to me that a person like this can become an admin on a website used by millions of teenagers. We already know that admins can access private messages and…

It's astonishing to me that a person like this can become an admin on a website used by millions of teenagers Unfortunately not so astonishing, people like that are drawn to and commonly inhabit exactly the kinds of places you wouldn’t want them. There are some fairly recent public examples you could easily find.

Absolutely. These people actively seek out access to children, and many of them are extremely clever in the way they do this, and the way they manipulate good-natured people around them.

The only part that astonishes me is that Reddit hired the person. It suggests they are either not performing proper background checking (terrible), or they are and decided to overlook what they found (even worse).

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