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Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by dekhn »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #364
dekhn wrote: post #194

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I'm confused. Why did reddit hire this person?

Some have hypothesized that Reddit was trying to increase their diversity numbers but it seems more likely that she's friends with someone or has a group of friends at Reddit and that's how she made it though whatever hiring process they have. Reddit doesn't strike me as the type of place that's very rigorous when it comes to process so knowing the right people might have been enough. Of course this is all conjecture…

I mean, at some point, the folks who do background checks during hiring would have flagged this as a risk, and I can't see the company proceeding to the offer stage once they were aware. I mean this purely from a corporate risk-avoidance perspective. But, I guess reddit might not adhere to this approach.

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

mam2 wrote: post #280
tarsinge wrote: post #224

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Church is far from being the biggest offender in France for jobs close to children, there is a whole generation of public educators that were openly for it (for some overlapping with your first point like Cohn-Bendit).

Ecxept that the church has constantly been trying to cover up the stories and constant sex scandals. All the fucking time. At sone point "if you are not a groups of pedohpiles covering each other, dont act like a group of pedophiles covering each others". If i was pedophile i would absolutely go to the church, also because so many people have their faith blind the truth. The "cant even imagine" its possible this "res…

The Catholic Church has covered up many other things.

It has nothing to do with child sexual abuse per sē, but simply that it's modus operandī, and that of many other organizations seems to be silence money to protect it's brand.

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by notahacker »

filoleg wrote: post #390
notahacker wrote: post #383

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The point was that the list of admins that could be 'doxxed' wouldn't include Alexis Ohanian or any admin that actually posts under their real name. Of course in this instance it appears the opposite happened and nobody knew Challenor (a pretty obscure figure whose political career probably deserves the past tense) was involved with Reddit at all until the modding Streisanded it.

>The point was that the list of admins that could be 'doxxed' wouldn't include Alexis Ohanian or any admin that actually posts under their real name. What? Alexis Ohanian doesn't post under his real name, he posts under u/kn0thing. And it isn't a recent thing, that has been his username from the very beginning.

That's why I said Alexis Ohanian or any admin that actually posts under their real name, yes. You can't dox the real life identity of a founder whose username is public knowledge, or somebody who posts under their real name and will be addressed with their real name in replies. You could dox a lot of the others.

(All of which is moot anyway if the interventions were manual. Their PR would have been probably been a lot better blaming an anonymous human admin and reinstating the post too...)

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by at_a_remove »

pen2l wrote: post #152
trident5000 wrote: post #111

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The CEO himself admitted to going into The_Donald subreddit (before it was banned) and editing user comments. I don't think this guy is leading the charge to admin transparency. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reddit-ceo-edits-user-comment...

This gets brought up a lot. And it's a bit of a doozy to make sense of. First, consider the context: the CEO (spez) was an easy punching bag on the_donald subreddit, in fact it was a bit of a meme there to attack reddit's admins (and those in the know do know that the attacks were often crossing a line, like accusing them of being pedophiles and things of the nature). The change that spez made was a bit of a joke its…

On the contrary, it's the most significant thing I could imagine: The Admin Feels Free To Do Anything.

Ponder this. Unconstrained. Doesn't see what the big deal is. Can do, will do. Frictionless, untrackable.

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by Silhouette »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #285
jefftk wrote: post #195

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> However they seem to be denying the accusations that admins (possibly including the individual in question) were manually editing contents containing her name. Are you talking about replacing contents / titles with "[Removed by Reddit]"? That's the "Content Removed by Reddit Admins" category in https://www.redditinc.com/policies/transparency-report-2020-...

According to the r/UKpolitics moderator that got banned, one of their comments was manually edited multiple times (first to change the content of the comment, then to fix typos in previous edits)[1]. Reddit hasn't refuted this. From context I've seen elsewhere, my guess is that the mod posted the text of the Spectator article in its entirely as a comment on their submission. Then, someone edited out the sentence whic…

According to the r/UKpolitics moderator that got banned, one of their comments was manually edited multiple times (first to change the content of the comment, then to fix typos in previous edits)[1]. Reddit hasn't refuted this.

It seems to me that the biggest problem with that specific situation, assuming the description is indeed correct, isn't that the admins of a forum have the power to edit content on their own site, but rather that if the content has been edited by the admins then this isn't necessarily being disclosed transparently to others, and by extension the original author might still be held responsible for something they did not in fact write.

You might expect that, for legal CYA reasons if nothing else, a forum of Reddit's prominence where controversial subjects are sometimes discussed would at least keep some sort of irrefutable log of any changes made by its admins and clearly mark any content that has been edited by admins to avoid misrepresenting the original author. However, going by various other comments made over the past couple of days, it looks like this might not be the case, which seems dangerous for both Reddit and the people writing the content that gets changed.

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by unethical_ban »

skrowl wrote: post #91
unethical_ban wrote: post #34

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Well, that would be improper, so I'm glad they haven't been. Booting people off core infrastructure (IaaS, colo, DNS) for reasons outside violation of law is a very slippery slope.

Tell that to Gab / Parler / etc

I agree, I even wrote some thoughts down about it at the time.

https://wannabewonk.com/gab-and-free-speech-on-the-internet/

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by adzzzz »

jowsie wrote: post #350
adzzzz wrote: post #42

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The cartoon depiction of sex with minors is almost certainly illegal in many districts and countries.

This isn't allowed on reddit though.

It is absolutely on Reddit in droves right now.

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by ALittleLight »

pen2l wrote: post #248
prepend wrote: post #220

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> pretty insignifiant in the grand scheme of things. It was super significant in that it was evidence that Reddit employees have the ability to edit messages with no audit trail and no governance. So while the individual edit was not important, the fact that it happened was. And there is an unknown number of other edits that were never disclosed and is unprovable. So Reddit broke the one thing it’s supposed to do- al…

> It was super significant in that it was evidence that Reddit employees have the ability to edit messages with no audit trail and no governance. Yeah this is an issue, but let’s be real here, this matters to you me and a few other people here, and outside in the real world no-one cares. Even this expectation is new, any admin who was hosting phpbb forums or whatever else had this freedom to change a few entries in t…

It mattered a lot to the people in the subreddit who were upset enough about that and other things to create their own website and move their community off reddit.

I think it's less about the technical aspect and more about the expectation that people with the ability to change your comments won't do that. If you wrote an opinion letter to a magazine, and they published it, but only after changing a few words in your letter to make you seem dumb, everyone would understand why you were upset even though nobody would doubt that magazines have the technical capability to do this.

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by adzzzz »

varispeed wrote: post #275
adzzzz wrote: post #11

I'm still shocked Reddit is allowed into the wider ecosystem of tech infrastructure. Between hosting explicit gore content and very extreme pornography with borderline legality at best (Including under Alexis's and Steve's leadership allowing a jailbait subreddit to continue for years) I would have thought they'd be booted from AWS etc.

Do you want projects that you disagree with deplatformed? That's pretty extremist position to take. Why do you think it is a good idea?

I want content that condones pedophilia, bestiality, and other extreme pornography deplatformed yes. Why do you want to keep it up?

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by tryonenow »

Sebb767 wrote: post #45
cecilpl2 wrote: post #28

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Can you expand on this? I haven't noticed any change in comment section usability and I've been on reddit for 10+ years.

The new design collapses all responses below the second level (and then every two levels) while adding extreme amounts of visual distractions to gilded/awarded/... comments (personal opinion). This annoys me to no end and I presume the grandparent is referencing that.

It also wastes screen space, as the whole page is about 50% narrower. Far less information dense, optimized for ads and engagement (about half of screen space is dedicated to recommended posts when a thread loads). Feels like commercialization.
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