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Post by ncann »

notJim wrote: post #253
pumaontheprowl wrote: post #66

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The new UX on the site is unusable. I don't use anything except old.reddit.com and if they ever try to get rid of that, I'll surely stop visiting the site altogether. You have to wonder how long they'll continue to maintain two different web frontends for the site, though.

What's the issue with it? I see nothing but hate, but I honestly don't mind the new design. Edit: lol, I participate in a lot of contentious threads here, but this simple question where I am genuinely trying to understand something has generated the most downvotes.

It's slow and not very responsive. Everything from opening a thread, to expanding/collapsing a comment thread and pretty much all other operations are slow. Definitely a lot slower than old plain reddit or HN.

It wastes too much screen estates for no reason. On my screen about half the width is wasted on the left and right blank spaces.

It breaks a lot of subs' custom theming.

The comment section navigation is horrible. It only shows comment maybe 5-6 level deep and if you expand then you will have to "go back" later. When you first go into a thread, it also doesn't show all comments, and instead requires an additional click to "View entire discussion".

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Post by philistine »

leetcrew wrote: post #242
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #186

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Do you think it's wrong to target a terrorist?

it depends? when I was a kid, my tennis instructor used to prop up pictures of osama bin laden on hitting targets. a little odd to do with young children, but not a big deal I don't think. if "islamic terrorist" means a picture of someone wearing typical pashtun garb holding an ak, that's a bit less okay. it's kinda like people who are really into home defense. there's nothing wrong with people who train a lot to def…

It is a big deal that your hatred for a terrorist was used to improve your performance at a sport, when you were a kid. I despise Al-Qaida, but hating Bin Laden to such a level was exactly his goal. Proper warfare against Islamic terrorists means shielding children from senseless hate, not embracing it. Preparing children for a difficult world with tough problems and impossible solutions. You were taught that terrorism could be solved by throwing things at its nominal leader. During tennis practice!

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Post by slg »

trident5000 wrote: post #346
slg wrote: post #277

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I'm not going to defend Reddit's corporate culture, but you are making a much more nebulous complaint here than OP did when they stated rather definitively that there was "no audit trail and no governance".

Think you're replying to the wrong person. Im not username "prepend" above.

I realize that and it is why I referenced “OP” in that comment. They made a specific and direct statement which was in my opinion unsupported by the evidence. You countered my response with a more general and vaguer complaint that I can’t really disagree with but isn’t directly related to the original complaint I was refuting.

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

s_dev wrote: post #309
notJim wrote: post #253

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What's the issue with it? I see nothing but hate, but I honestly don't mind the new design. Edit: lol, I participate in a lot of contentious threads here, but this simple question where I am genuinely trying to understand something has generated the most downvotes.

People who are used to it are mostly power users generating content for reddit and their subs. It's absolutely reddits right to ignore their preferences but also at their peril. Reddit is precariously close to doing a 'Digg'.

Digg had Reddit waiting in the wings to take advantage of their missteps. While other Reddit-like sites exist, none of them seem to be capable or even desire to be the next Reddit. The opportunity is certainly there but there's little interest most likely because Reddit has no good path to profitability. Anyone who invests in a Reddit killer would need to do it for reasons other than monetary.

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Post by newsclues »

darkhorse13 wrote: post #349
newsclues wrote: post #272

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Couple this with the pornography subreddits. After pornhhub had issues with user generated content, Reddit needs much stricter regulation.

It's seriously a shame you are being downvoted for this comment.

Odd, was it critical of Reddit or the appearance of being anti pornography (I’m just extremely anti child porn and other things like sex slavery/trafficking).

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Post by jl6 »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #52

Reddit has addressed the situation here, in a mealy mouthed sort of way: https://www.reddit.com/r/modsupport/comments/mbqgx2 However they seem to be denying the accusations that admins (possibly including the individual in question) were manually editing contents containing her name. This whole situation is incredibly bizarre to me. In the first place, why would reddit hire a 23 year old admin whose greatest accompli…

This person was probably hired because they have great trans advocacy credentials, which seems well aligned to the political orientation that Reddit is converging on. It’s easy to imagine how safeguarding issues were overlooked in a rush to hire an ally.

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Post by rob___m »

StevePerkins wrote: post #192
testfoobar wrote: post #65

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I miss humor and authenticity from old reddit the most. E.g. the classic: "I also choose this guy's dead wife." or the AMA with the vacuum repair guy. These days just about any popular thread that I wander into, I see wide swaths of "deleted" comments. I'm sure they were deleted for many good and valid reasons. IMHO, reddit's aggressive moderation suppresses spontaneous comments and is off putting to lurkers. The wit…

I would LOVE to find a Reddit alternative, that is more in the vein of that early days spirit. Unfortunately, it seems like the only options out there are either: 1) Reddit clones, that attract people who are angry about the worst subreddits getting banned at one point or another. Pretty much nothing but non-witty hate speech, and meta discussion about how much Reddit sucks. 2) Random phpBB bulletin boards, that are…

Me too. I found reddit when somebody posted a link to it on Digg when Digg was getting bad. Reddit has gotten bad IMO a few times, but I haven't found a better alternative. Every time it does, I adjust my usage (using old., carefully curating my subs) and it's been ok.

Today I'm out looking for alternatives again, which brings me to HN. There's something magical about early reddit, but I don't think it's unique, I think it existed on usenet and bulleting boards and other stuff before my time, I think it will exist again, but if it exists right now, it's a carefully guarded secret that I haven't stumbled upon yet.

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Post by justbored123 »

serial_dev wrote: post #302
pen2l wrote: post #152

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This gets brought up a lot. And it's a bit of a doozy to make sense of. First, consider the context: the CEO (spez) was an easy punching bag on the_donald subreddit, in fact it was a bit of a meme there to attack reddit's admins (and those in the know do know that the attacks were often crossing a line, like accusing them of being pedophiles and things of the nature). The change that spez made was a bit of a joke its…

Just replace spez and reddit with Zuckerberg and Facebook and you'll immediately understand why it is bad. Just imagine Mark editing your posts. CEOs shouldn't be monkeying around without a transparent changelog with user content.

Why not? Is their company and you are not paying them a damn thing. Why the entitlement if you are not paying for the service that you are enjoying? That's not how the world works.

If you are not paying don't complain, just move to another site or pay for the service so you are under a different contract and relation and you are no longer the product and are the customer instead.

You are not the customer of Facebook, Reddit or Google, the ads buyers are, and the customer is always right. If they don't like your post, it makes all the sense in the world to change it, censor it or kick you out because you are making them lose money and they are not a non-profit existing to serve you. They exist to make money for their share-holders like any other corporation.

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Post by mam2 »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #360
mam2 wrote: post #203

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I am 100% convinced that the rate of pedophile is higher in: - positions of power (we have had a few in france who were judges / party representatives etC...) - any job close to children, which includes in particular schools, but also.. - church Why ? Because if you woke up tommorow as a pedophile, without any morals, and wanted to maximise the "chances" to satisfy your sexual attraction, where would you go ? Exactly…

It’s a shame your comment was downvoted.

Yeah, even more sad when you realize people downvoting this are inconsciously enabling the pedophiles.

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Post by MiddleEndian »

luc4sdreyer wrote: post #235
wccrawford wrote: post #51

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I think it's even worse than that. They'll remember, but still keep coming back. You can't even blame short memory for it. They literally don't care more than the inconvenience they'd face in going elsewhere for forums. And as long as that's true, the things they dislike will keep happening.

Users will switch if there is a viable alternative.

I think it's impossible to run a big site like reddit without having disasters, and as sites grow, more users will inevitably be more irritated by decisions one way or another. I'd rather not see one viable alternative, but instead many dozens of hackernews sized sites.

Even outside of this issue, homogenization of the internet is a bit boring. Why do /r/vexillology, /r/vexillologycirclejerk, /r/mapporn, /r/shittymapporn and /r/mapporncirclejerk (boards about flags and maps and then boards where the same users make fun of themselves), need to be on the same website with the same admins as /r/mma and /r/boxing (boards about watching people fight each other)?

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