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Post by Larrikin »

irrational wrote: post #320
bloopernova wrote: post #314

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The content of Reddit comments have been used in legal proceedings. It's a huge deal that the CEO has edit permissions in the main Reddit site database, they simply shouldn't have that access at all.

The fact that Reddit comments are admissible in a court sounds insane to me. I can't believe people actually take Reddit that seriously. It's like taking preschoolers yelling at each other seriously, but with anonymity thrown in. The fact that adults can take it seriously enough to use it in court cases is crazy.

Just because you don't know the reddit user in real life doesn't mean other people don't know each other in real life. If someone says they're going to kill someone for a comment, and then that user ends up dead, I don't see why it would be shocking that might be used as evidence in a court case.

It was a pretty common occurrence on Twitter back when people posted their gang crap everywhere.

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Post by kaba0 »

luc4sdreyer wrote: post #199
caslon wrote: post #166

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He's been remarkably open every time he's changed user content (once with a post in 200...7? I think, and the single time he edited comments). I don't like reddit, and I don't like spez for other reasons (downgraded from Lisp to Python), but what he did was literally just a harmless joke. All reddit posts and comments are publicly archived by services like pushshift; we'd know if they had a habit of doing this.

> He's been remarkably open every time he's changed user content I have no stake in this story, but how could you, or anyone, possibly know that?

As he mentioned in his comment, there are plenty of reddit thread archivers, especially on popular subreddits.

But I also have no stakes here.

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Post by xenihn »

irrational wrote: post #339
xenihn wrote: post #334

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That's possible and likely. It would obviously be worse.

Worse why? This is Reddit we are talking about.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/29/us/justin-ross-harris-trial-u...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2681390/Cooper-Harr...

Search for 'reddit' on both pages

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by justbored123 »

prepend wrote: post #220
pen2l wrote: post #152

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This gets brought up a lot. And it's a bit of a doozy to make sense of. First, consider the context: the CEO (spez) was an easy punching bag on the_donald subreddit, in fact it was a bit of a meme there to attack reddit's admins (and those in the know do know that the attacks were often crossing a line, like accusing them of being pedophiles and things of the nature). The change that spez made was a bit of a joke its…

> pretty insignifiant in the grand scheme of things. It was super significant in that it was evidence that Reddit employees have the ability to edit messages with no audit trail and no governance. So while the individual edit was not important, the fact that it happened was. And there is an unknown number of other edits that were never disclosed and is unprovable. So Reddit broke the one thing it’s supposed to do- al…

> If it was Reddit we wouldn’t be able to know if it was Knight’s boyfriend, hackers, or some Reddit admin.

Sorry I don't see your point, I work in systems in very large e-commerce multinationals and I have been given the production database credentials many times allowing me to change anything of any user or any product using the mandatory company VPN and the admin account. What are you going to track? The VPN IP and and the general admin credential that can be 100 different people not including hackers that could have compromised any of our PCs?

The only important thing is that she doesn't stand behind the comments, she denies them. So that's it. She clearly doesn't support those statements, end of story.

Doxxing on the other hand is a federal crime in the US and thus is not considered "free speech" and must be censored according to https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2261A

Whoever with the intent to kill, injure, harass, intimidate, or place under surveillance with intent to kill, injure, harass, or intimidate another person, uses the mail, any interactive computer service or electronic communication service or electronic communication system of interstate commerce, or any other facility of interstate or foreign commerce to engage in a course of conduct that causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to a person described in clause ...

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Post by danellis »

i_haz_rabies wrote: post #170
sillysaurusx wrote: post #155

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I'm confused. Your comment talks about her father and her fiance. What did she do? "Amiee Chancellor is a despicable human being" is pretty heavy, but the only thing related to her in your comment is that "she forged documents in order to hire him as her election agent." Not cool, but is there more here?

"photos on her phone" is pretty damning.

What were the photos, though? People are saying photos of her with the victim, but were they pictures that implied she knew about the abuse?

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Post by trident5000 »

slg wrote: post #277
trident5000 wrote: post #270

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"he would have been fired after an examination of the audit trail if he was anyone else but the co-founder/CEO" That assumes theres an ethical corporate culture which many doubt.

I'm not going to defend Reddit's corporate culture, but you are making a much more nebulous complaint here than OP did when they stated rather definitively that there was "no audit trail and no governance".

Think you're replying to the wrong person. Im not username "prepend" above.

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Post by tinus_hn »

shultays wrote: post #337
Rebelgecko wrote: post #52

Reddit has addressed the situation here, in a mealy mouthed sort of way: https://www.reddit.com/r/modsupport/comments/mbqgx2 However they seem to be denying the accusations that admins (possibly including the individual in question) were manually editing contents containing her name. This whole situation is incredibly bizarre to me. In the first place, why would reddit hire a 23 year old admin whose greatest accompli…

I remember related articles being flagged on HN as well. That is some very effective moderation tools

You yourself can flag any article you want, you just have to click a link at the top.

Re: Reddit’s most popular subreddits go private in protest against ‘censorship’

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Post by olladecarne »

pen2l wrote: post #152
trident5000 wrote: post #111

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The CEO himself admitted to going into The_Donald subreddit (before it was banned) and editing user comments. I don't think this guy is leading the charge to admin transparency. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reddit-ceo-edits-user-comment...

This gets brought up a lot. And it's a bit of a doozy to make sense of. First, consider the context: the CEO (spez) was an easy punching bag on the_donald subreddit, in fact it was a bit of a meme there to attack reddit's admins (and those in the know do know that the attacks were often crossing a line, like accusing them of being pedophiles and things of the nature). The change that spez made was a bit of a joke its…

The CEO of a social media company going and personally making political edits to user messages to push their agenda sounds about as bad of a thing as I can imagine. I have a hard time imagining something more wrong for a social network to do. Imagine the CEO of YC editing posts and comments with no way to prove it, people would be rightfully furious. I guess promoting child pornography is worse, but that's also something Reddit and their admins did in the early days. People can say all they want about Facebook and Zuckerberg, but if he had done any of dozens of things Reddit has done and continues to do, he may have literally been crucified. Reddit gets away with way too much crap just because there is no alternative. Reddit is one of the most toxic social networks with the most corrupt leadership but it generally gets ignored because of their political leanings.

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Post by darkhorse13 »

newsclues wrote: post #272
esja wrote: post #140

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I agree, but a minor nitpick: Aimee was forced out not just for being connected to pedophiles, but also for lying about and/or endorsing them (among other issues). A massive failure of safeguarding from the Greens and Lib Dems, and now from Reddit. It's astonishing to me that a person like this can become an admin on a website used by millions of teenagers. We already know that admins can access private messages and…

Couple this with the pornography subreddits. After pornhhub had issues with user generated content, Reddit needs much stricter regulation.

It's seriously a shame you are being downvoted for this comment.

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Post by jowsie »

adzzzz wrote: post #42
unethical_ban wrote: post #34

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Well, that would be improper, so I'm glad they haven't been. Booting people off core infrastructure (IaaS, colo, DNS) for reasons outside violation of law is a very slippery slope.

The cartoon depiction of sex with minors is almost certainly illegal in many districts and countries.

This isn't allowed on reddit though.
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