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Post by notJim »

Sebb767 wrote: post #45
cecilpl2 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you expand on this? I haven't noticed any change in comment section usability and I've been on reddit for 10+ years.

The new design collapses all responses below the second level (and then every two levels) while adding extreme amounts of visual distractions to gilded/awarded/... comments (personal opinion). This annoys me to no end and I presume the grandparent is referencing that.

> The new design collapses all responses below the second level

I don't follow. I just opened a random comment thread, and counted comments being shown up to seven levels deep (which was the deepest comment.) Is the behavior you describe only if you're logged out or something?

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Post by commandlinefan »

kumarvvr wrote: post #5

Wait, doesnt reddit have control over it servers? It surely can revoke such rules. Looks like all this drama is to give an illusion of control and free speech. Am I missing some other dynamic at play?

You would think that sort of behavior would be the final nail in the coffin for Reddit as a whole - but they've done a lot of things in the past that I would have thought would have been the final nail in the coffin, and they're still as popular as ever.

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Post by notJim »

pumaontheprowl wrote: post #66
sixothree wrote: post #6

Reddit as a whole is less useful since comment sections were demoted from first class citizens to something barely usable. I think they saw imgur as a threat and wanted to better replicate that experience.

The new UX on the site is unusable. I don't use anything except old.reddit.com and if they ever try to get rid of that, I'll surely stop visiting the site altogether. You have to wonder how long they'll continue to maintain two different web frontends for the site, though.

What's the issue with it? I see nothing but hate, but I honestly don't mind the new design.

Edit: lol, I participate in a lot of contentious threads here, but this simple question where I am genuinely trying to understand something has generated the most downvotes.

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Post by commandlinefan »

adzzzz wrote: post #11

I'm still shocked Reddit is allowed into the wider ecosystem of tech infrastructure. Between hosting explicit gore content and very extreme pornography with borderline legality at best (Including under Alexis's and Steve's leadership allowing a jailbait subreddit to continue for years) I would have thought they'd be booted from AWS etc.

> borderline legality

There's a technical term for something that's borderline legal: legal.

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Post by slg »

prepend wrote: post #220
pen2l wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This gets brought up a lot. And it's a bit of a doozy to make sense of. First, consider the context: the CEO (spez) was an easy punching bag on the_donald subreddit, in fact it was a bit of a meme there to attack reddit's admins (and those in the know do know that the attacks were often crossing a line, like accusing them of being pedophiles and things of the nature). The change that spez made was a bit of a joke its…

> pretty insignifiant in the grand scheme of things. It was super significant in that it was evidence that Reddit employees have the ability to edit messages with no audit trail and no governance. So while the individual edit was not important, the fact that it happened was. And there is an unknown number of other edits that were never disclosed and is unprovable. So Reddit broke the one thing it’s supposed to do- al…

>Reddit employees have the ability to edit messages with no audit trail and no governance.

How did you come to this conclusion? It is entirely possible that there was an audit trail and governance, spez simply ignored the governance, and he would have been fired after an examination of the audit trail if he was anyone else but the co-founder/CEO.

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Post by bad_username »

afavour wrote: post #37
BitwiseFool wrote: post #18

Reddit feels very Soviet lately. Everything is heavily manipulated and it seems like users are aware of that fact but are powerless to change anything.

“Soviet” feels like a dramatic overstatement.

I grew up in the Soviet Union, and am a redditor since 2013.

No, that is not an overstatement.

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Post by douglasisshiny »

auser1231232 wrote: post #228
douglasisshiny wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One subreddit was shut down. There are many other subreddits with pro-Trump users -- I visit them when I'm bored. Donald Trump is a billionaire and a former president. He can and does call into Fox News, et. al and immediately has an audience of millions. The idea that his speech is being suppressed is absolutely ridiculous . Why exactly should private entities be forced to host content that they choose not to host?

> Why exactly should private entities be forced to host content that they choose not to host? Where did you get that idea? No one is forcing a provider to host content they do not wish to host, and my comment made no mention of such a thing. Regardless, that's completely orthogonal to the fact that certain view points are being suppressed. How do you consider such an assertion to be ridiculous? Do you consider someth…

> Where did you get that idea? No one is forcing a provider to host content they do not wish to host, and my comment made no mention of such a thing.

You previously said:

> a very popular conservative social media platform was kicked off of its hosting providers, etc

The hosting provider kicked off the social media platform. They didn't want to host that platform. Nor should they be forced to host it. What's more, your whole point seems to be that because Donald Trump has been banned from some platforms, that his speech is being suppressed. But those platforms, which are private entities, are choosing not to allow him to post on their platforms. So you seem to be complaining about private entities choosing what and what not to host on their platforms.

And the bigger point, Donald Trump is free to go out into the public square and voice whatever viewpoint he has. Some networks, social media companies, etc. will cover it (in fact, a lot of them will). No one is stopping him from doing this. Just because he can't tweet it doesn't mean his speech is being suppressed.

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Post by tyho »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #155
tyho wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop defending pedophile apologists before you know the full facts of the case. Her father raped and tortured (a car battery was involved) a ten year old. This happened over multiple days whilst the child was tied to the rafters in the attic of the family home. This is the same house Aimee Chancellor was living in at the time. But she claims she didn't know and she was not on trial. Regardless, during the trial photo…

I'm confused. Your comment talks about her father and her fiance. What did she do? "Amiee Chancellor is a despicable human being" is pretty heavy, but the only thing related to her in your comment is that "she forged documents in order to hire him as her election agent." Not cool, but is there more here?

She lied to protect a known pedophile. I have limited myself to facts which have been proven in court. As a UK citizen, I am unable to make any statement which I cannot prove, less I be sued for libel. However I'll point out again that she lived in the house, the child was there for days, and there were photos of Amiee and the ten year old victim found by the police on Amiee's phone. There are plenty more facts available about this case which might cause you to question the decision making process of the CPS.

EDIT: I would link sources but the only sites which have properly covered this story are highly transphobic so I will refrain.

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Post by lettergram »

trident5000 wrote: post #111
Rebelgecko wrote: post #52

Reddit has addressed the situation here, in a mealy mouthed sort of way: https://www.reddit.com/r/modsupport/comments/mbqgx2 However they seem to be denying the accusations that admins (possibly including the individual in question) were manually editing contents containing her name. This whole situation is incredibly bizarre to me. In the first place, why would reddit hire a 23 year old admin whose greatest accompli…

The CEO himself admitted to going into The_Donald subreddit (before it was banned) and editing user comments. I don't think this guy is leading the charge to admin transparency. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reddit-ceo-edits-user-comment...

For reference, they moved to: https://patriots.win/

It's been interesting to watch the community actually grow (it was thedonald.win, but there was a difference between moderators - aka the domain owner wanted to make money).

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