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They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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There are three car tracks in the Austin area - surely they can come to an agreement with one of them to have their burnouts , barbecue's and social gatherings there ???.

Public parks are not the place for this , nothing to do with culture.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar feelings here. I simply don't know where else to go; it seems like every nice-to-live-in medium-sized city that isn't SF is going through this same song and dance. Money comes in like a flock of locusts, consumes the city, and SF is one of the first examples we're seeing of the husk that gets left behind. Then they move on to the next one. Where's a person supposed to lay down roots, without retreating deep i…

> I simply don't know where else to go; it seems like every nice-to-live-in medium-sized city that isn't SF is going through this same song and dance. Not to sound too defeatist about it, since let's be honest we are still sitting pretty high on the list of people doing pretty well for ourselves, but I'm not sure there is any real escape. In addition to more people moving here, one of the other reasons the Puget Soun…

> I am anxious not only for my family, but for society at large

Absolutely; I didn't mean to underplay how privileged I still am, that my worst-case scenario is spending more than I'd like to on housing or moving somewhere less-pleasant to live. Lots of people are in much worse positions right now and I'm really hoping something gives at some point. I just wanted to air/discuss the source of my own (much smaller by comparison) frustrations, given that lots of people here can probably relate.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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I live in this neighborhood, about three blocks north of where the car club meets. I’m white. I’m a homeowner. You get the picture. Honestly, these people complaining in Weaver sound insane. They moved into a community and it’s their job to integrate with the community. We have a Brit who lives on my street that does community organizing and he’s been wonderful about building a sense of community that integrates the…

Thanks for the context, that seems like a reasonable approach. The only thing I would offer is, do they know they can contact Pio or the Brit? I'm sure they'd much prefer to liaise with them rather than hope the police will fix everything. How would they discover such people? FWIW, I'm kind of in the same situation, as I bought a place last month in the gentrifying East Riverside area (just across the river from the…

Yeah this is hard. Honestly E. Cezar Chavez is lucky in a lot of ways because Pio and the Brit are so active in the community. The one thing I can say is that you should meet your neighbors, join in if there's a block party and just generally talk to people in-person. If you do that, I'm sure you'll meet someone who is at least the de-facto community leader.

But whatever you do, stay off of NextDoor -- nothing good happens there.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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I live in this neighborhood, about three blocks north of where the car club meets. I’m white. I’m a homeowner. You get the picture. Honestly, these people complaining in Weaver sound insane. They moved into a community and it’s their job to integrate with the community. We have a Brit who lives on my street that does community organizing and he’s been wonderful about building a sense of community that integrates the…

So many words about race, nationality, community, white privilege and literally no mention of wealth, economic inequality or at least increased mobility of labour. This is what I “love” about modern American discourse.

Totally a fair criticism, but I can't look past race when the white residents are accusing the mostly brown car club of dealing drugs.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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post #176

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Because race is deeply entwined with culture, and culture is in everything. Every culture owns cars, but not every subculture does things with cars that require you to do most of the work yourself in your driveway. It’s like Ehrlichman’s famous quote: “We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, an…

Are most people working on cars at their home doing it because they're wanting to do modifications most shops won't do, or because they're trying to save the few hundred dollars an hour in labor charges to do some things that take a few minutes of reading and an understanding of lefty-loosey righty-tighty? A few of my friends and myself tend to do most of the maintenance on our cars and motorcycles by ourselves. If I…

If one drives down Alameda street in SF you'll see a lot of people trying to stave off a repair bill they can't afford with amateur shop night.

I get not having a neighbor who runs a covert or not-so-covert shop next door, but these laws are bludgeons written for selective enforcement.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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What's pushing people out is the rising cost of property, caused by more and more money bidding for less space. If the government had done more to create more space, prices would not have risen so dramatically. What if government policy for the last few decades had been to keep housing as affordable as possible. So if average rent in a city started increasing, the government would make sure new apartments and got bui…

> What if government policy for the last few decades had been to keep housing as affordable as possible. > So if average rent in a city started increasing, the government would make sure new apartments and got built and/or expanded roads and public transit How? Should they...raise taxes? Subsidize housing(and pay for it by raising taxes)? Take from the people who produce much, and give to the people who produce less?…

If rents start increasing, then investors will build new housing. All the city has to do is approve the permits.

>Take from the people who produce much, and give to the people who produce less?

Maybe? Depends if you want to avoid this situation:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/8f/07/778f07ec78b997b4f218...

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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post #36

At the general level, I doubt anyone is surprised to see this story, and there will likely be more to come as tech flocks to Austin (though it was already a notable tech hub with some of these pressures already before the billionaires decided to give it the seal of approval). To me, the more interesting question here is how does Austin avoid what happened to SF, where tech hollowed out nearly all of its existing cult…

> To me, the more interesting question here is how does Austin avoid what happened to SF It doesn't. There is a limited number of cities with weather conditions humans prefer. Some people think others care about culture - no, they mostly don't. They care about weather conditions, safety and job opportunities. Culture is a nice to have feature. Unless governments get busy building new cities/towns, every existing city…

>Some people think others care about culture - no, they mostly don't. They care about weather conditions, safety and job opportunities. Culture is a nice to have feature

This does not track at all with what happened to the Bay Area. Silicon Valley historically means the peninsula. GOOG, FB, AAPL and most of the other tech giants are all closer to San Jose than to San Francisco. Yet it’s San Francisco (and to an extent Oakland) who have experienced incredibly growing pains. If the culture factor didn’t matter then people would have been happy to live in San Jose which has identical (if not better) better weather, safety and job opportunities.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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I live in this neighborhood, about three blocks north of where the car club meets. I’m white. I’m a homeowner. You get the picture. Honestly, these people complaining in Weaver sound insane. They moved into a community and it’s their job to integrate with the community. We have a Brit who lives on my street that does community organizing and he’s been wonderful about building a sense of community that integrates the…

"They moved into a community and it’s their job to integrate with the community." Is that a broadly-accepted opinion? Does it apply consistently to all cultures -- e.g. does it apply when nonwhites move into a white area? And, does it reflect reality? Do new populations really preserve the prexisting culture in practice?

Generally whites moving into a nonwhite area has been exemplified by colonialism, which is the community being coerced into integrating with the colonists.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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"Another Weaver resident voiced more generalized criticism, calling the event a 'display of toxic masculinity.'"

In general, I find that a somewhat overused trope, and I'm particularly suspicious when it's weaponized by gentrifiers, but if you look at the rims on the car at the top of the article and the burnout later on, maybe in this case, there may be a kernel of truth to "display of toxic masculinity".

I like gadgets, and I can understand why people would want to enjoy them and show them off and I think that there should be space in society for that, but those rims and the burnouts seem to be designed to aggressively "claim space" at the expense of others.

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