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PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder

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Re: PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder

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I wonder, what's the difference between this and all the distro-flavored versions there were before?

It appears that this version has 32GB eMMC storage vs 16GB and has 3GB SDRAM vs 2GB.

That's only if you get the Convergence package, which comes with a $25 docking station but is $50 more expensive.

Re: PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder

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post #143

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@rorykoehler It's the most well known non capitalist society.

China is a capitalist state in all but name.

I'm beginning to think the whole "capitalist"/"communist" dialectic is meant to make people think there's a "capitalist" economic system or a "communist" economic system, whereas when the communists get control they make a "state capitalist" or "party capitalist" system that looks much like "capitalism" except it has a severely authoritarian political system (which everyone is told is a symptom of "capitalism.")

In other words, "communism" is an authoritarian/dictatorial political system that masquerades as an economic system until it doesn't have to put up with any dissent, at which point it goes back to "capitalism." (State or Party or whatever. I think they call their version "with chinese characteristics" in the west.)

Re: PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder

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To take one example: the interaction with your bank goes through a web-browser, I suppose? You probably need a special device for 2FA? In most bank apps, you can simply log in using a PIN-code and do things like check your balance, make small wire transfers, and make payments in stores through NFC. Doing these things in a web-browser on a mobile phone with a separate 2FA device is much more cumbersome. (I use Linux e…

:shrug: I don't have a bank app installed on my phone right now. And there are absolutely going to be Open Source 2FA apps being built for Pinephone, so I'm good there. Currently, I don't use a banking app because I don't trust my bank to have that level of access to my phone with a proprietary app, and because my bank's app isn't particularly good in the first place. So I'm not really losing out by using Pinephone.…

- NewPipe -> for audio online there is AudioTube and for video there is Plasmatube - Podcast -> Alligator (an RSS reader) is gaining support for podcast soon (there is an open MR) - AndOTP -> Keysmith, but it still missing some features like scaning a Qr code - Signal (and/or Matrix): I develop a matrix client called NeoChat - Maps: there is PureMaps powered by OSM - Orgzly: still missing - Email: there are some poc that are able to read mails but this will still require a lot of time - Good browser support: Angelfish is great

You can find a bigger list of apps in https://www.plasma-mobile.org/. There is a few still missing that I will try to add later.

Re: PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder

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I'd much prefer a list of phones where people have been able to crack the bootloader open completely and then I can just install Linux on top of it. Not a big fan of extremely old hardware which would never be able to keep up with what I can get out of a Raspberry Pi. In fact, how feasible is it to create a hat for the Raspberry Pi compute module which operates effectively as a mobile phone. Like you would an obvious…

You might find this interesting: https://learn.adafruit.com/piphone-a-raspberry-pi-based-cell...

There's also an Arduino one: https://learn.adafruit.com/arduin-o-phone-arduino-powered-di...

Re: PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder

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post #115
post #112

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One could argue that it is exactly this financial incentive that causes all the mislabeled useless apps on the app stores.

>financial incentive ? ... financial incentives is the motivation for most labor.

Research has actually indicated that the link between financial incentives and motivation to work is actually very small: https://hbr.org/2013/04/does-money-really-affect-motiv

Thus widespread availability of "labor of love" open source software, and the relative crappiness of a lot of commercial software.

Re: PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder

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post #175
post #115

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>financial incentive ? ... financial incentives is the motivation for most labor.

Research has actually indicated that the link between financial incentives and motivation to work is actually very small: https://hbr.org/2013/04/does-money-really-affect-motiv Thus widespread availability of "labor of love" open source software, and the relative crappiness of a lot of commercial software.

You still hit solvency constraints at some point.

Re: PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder

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>financial incentive ? ... financial incentives is the motivation for most labor.

Financial incentives redirect labour from useful to profitable activities.

you cannot possibly be postulating that profitable activities can never be considered useful, are you?

Re: PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder

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post #16

Does it allow to call phones and send SMS? This seems like a silly question, but I know that some version of Librem didn't and nobody mentioned it in their reviews.

Yes, it works but it might need a bit of tinkering. This should probably be fixed soon, hopefully with the day 0 update.
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