Well they had a good run and now its over.
They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions
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#302Why does the article mention race so much? What's race got to do with it?
Because in the US, when two groups or people have a disagreement and the cops show up, one group is assumed to be law-abiding by default and the other is assumed to be not. Police-initiated violence follows.
Some people like this outcome, some do not, and think it's unfair, especially when the latter group was there first/longer.
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
The risk of a confrontation escalating makes dealing with such things myself a very unattractive option, especially if it's a stranger. I've had a simple, polite request to turn down the thumping music at 1 AM end with me blocking punches, retreating to my unit, and calling the cops. Better to leave it to people who do such things professionally.
If you wouldn't come back with a gun yourself to resolve the issue, it's a dick move to call someone else (a cop) to come over with a gun. If you're making phone calls for armed response because someone is playing music, the problem might be with you.
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#304To be fair, I'm a middle-aged white engineer raised in San Jose, CA relocated to ATX in Dec 2020. I live at the corner of I-35 east-side frontage and 5th in a mega apartment complex. I've tried meeting many of my neighbors and most are asocial/antisocial. There are 2 women roommates and an African-American kid who are legit cool that I've met so far. Also, I don't even know the people across the hall. My conclusion f…
At the risk of being cast into your uncool categorization... it sounds like maybe you just have your own personal preferences like everyone else in the world? I'm not really seeing much of a pattern in the things you like and don't like here - sitting on your phone not socializing is uncool, and so is throwing trash on the ground and stealing shopping carts. But playing loud music that disturbs the neighbors and doing dangerous car stunts on public streets is cool.
Hey, I hope you find the like-minded community that you're looking for. But maybe consider that you could still be yourself without totally writing off everyone who isn't just like you as irredeemably uncool and telling them to pound salt?
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#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
Working class neighborhoods. I live in one and the people are very real for the most part. Neighbors gather together frequently and are social but will leave you alone. We don't suffer any bullshit though. One of the main reasons I haven't moved is because the neighborhood is real and fairly devoid of weird Karens like the one quoted in the article.
Very much agree!! I live in a working class neighborhood in the DFW area, it's much more friendly than the wealthy complex I was in, in WA
Damn, that could be my problem too. Maybe I should move. Frighted/anxious, people-avoiding, phone addict, "let's do lunch" and exchange phone numbers but never call yuppies are such wastes of space. They should be called "nopeies."
The metroplex has an awesome music scene too!
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems like this comment is based on either an incorrect image of how this conversation ought to go, or a problematic prior about how inclined one's neighbor might be to violent retaliation. In most cases, I'd suggest mitigating this risk through your style of interaction, not your initial choice about how to interact at all. GP was just suggesting a normal human interaction. If "retaliation" is a risk after your i…
The asshole blaring music and doing burnouts is very unlikely to respond positively to a suggestion they stop doing that. If they were reasonable people and considerate of others they wouldn't be doing that in the first place. I suspect that if you polled the long term residents of the area they would have similar negative perceptions of the car club. It's just that they don't have the power to effect change or don't…
> If they were reasonable people and considerate of others they wouldn't be doing that in the first place.
Respectfully, you're probably giving yourself too much credit here (and your neighbors not enough). It's almost certainly the case that you (and me and everybody else reading this) has done something that annoyed a neighbor. You either just didn't realize it or you were tired or stressed and slipped up. But the odds are exceedingly good for any of us that we've had our music too loud, or our stomping was bothering the people downstairs, or we parked somewhere that annoyed somebody else.
If you'd react reasonably when called out for any of these behaviors, then give your fellow man the benefit of that doubt.
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately, the risk of retaliation may be too high. While the likelihood may be low, the magnitude of the consequence is great.
It seems like this comment is based on either an incorrect image of how this conversation ought to go, or a problematic prior about how inclined one's neighbor might be to violent retaliation. In most cases, I'd suggest mitigating this risk through your style of interaction, not your initial choice about how to interact at all. GP was just suggesting a normal human interaction. If "retaliation" is a risk after your i…
And I think this comment is based on never having encountered a toxic neighbor yourself, and underestimating the significance of a single bad apple.
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#308According to the article, this event has been happening almost weekly for years 1) Does this mean the developers did not take this into consideration and have a plan on how to deal with this or handle it? 2) Does it mean the folks buying the apartments (or renting) did not do their due diligence and find out this is a weekly event? Takeaways here (for all of us reading this story) - do you research before you move to…
> have a plan on how to deal with this or handle it? Seems the plan is around the expectation that the newcomers, being white and rich, are going to get their way in the end. Which I truly hope not.
Austin has a long tradition of class-based segregation in housing for mid-to-upper-class white people. The majority of the area is what's called "master planned", which is designed specifically to segregate by net worth/income.
I would offer odds on how this turns out, especially considering that the burnouts and stuff associated with car club meets are de jure illegal. All it takes is a cop with a desire to ruin something good.
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#309I live in this neighborhood, about three blocks north of where the car club meets. I’m white. I’m a homeowner. You get the picture. Honestly, these people complaining in Weaver sound insane. They moved into a community and it’s their job to integrate with the community. We have a Brit who lives on my street that does community organizing and he’s been wonderful about building a sense of community that integrates the…
"They moved into a community and it’s their job to integrate with the community." Is that a broadly-accepted opinion? Does it apply consistently to all cultures -- e.g. does it apply when nonwhites move into a white area? And, does it reflect reality? Do new populations really preserve the prexisting culture in practice?
Requiring cultural integration is a slippery slope.
Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions
#310To be fair, I'm a middle-aged white engineer raised in San Jose, CA relocated to ATX in Dec 2020. I live at the corner of I-35 east-side frontage and 5th in a mega apartment complex. I've tried meeting many of my neighbors and most are asocial/antisocial. There are 2 women roommates and an African-American kid who are legit cool that I've met so far. Also, I don't even know the people across the hall. My conclusion f…
> Heck, my upstairs neighbor complained about my music on the weekend during the day without introducing themselves and not diplomatically. Tangential (and probably just a perennial old guy complaint), but it seems like people have forgotten how to do this. If you have an issue with something your neighbor is doing, then go talk to them . Don't leave an aggressive note. Don't let it boil over until you're so upset yo…
I agree. Jumping to the nuclear option or being passive-aggressive/aggressive-aggressive isn't neighborly. It could be a loss of reasonable perspective, they're depressed/angsty/acting out, controlling, or don't understand how to negotiate.
Wouldn't a better option be to introduce ourselves and invited to go to their place to see how loud it is and calibrate so it doesn't bother them for the day and also the night?