Does Routine have realtime collaboration? Currently using input.com for notes+tasks but still waiting for them to add better sharing model (they have rt collab but you have to send an invite for each doc, not ideal).
Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
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Re: Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
#42Does Routine have realtime collaboration? Currently using input.com for notes+tasks but still waiting for them to add better sharing model (they have rt collab but you have to send an invite for each doc, not ideal).
No not yet. Definitely something we want to do but to be honest it won't be before 6 months at least.
Re: Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
#43I've been looking for a combined task manager and calendar for a long time, and have often entertained building one for myself. Some feedback that is preventing adoption for me: - Complex recurrence is key. I exercise 4 days per week. I only process my inbox (GTD-style) on weekdays. I triage bugs twice per week. - Need to be able to view more than one day at a time on the calendar, and add tasks to specific days in t…
Thanks mful for your message.
Recurrence is something we will improve. But you have pretty specific ones :)
We will actually add a planning view with a full week. We are definitely aligned on that. Stay put.
For the future dates, yes indeed it's not ideal. We are in the process of fixing that. Well spotted.
For the navigation, again, need to improve you are right. You need to ESC to come back to arrow navigation for now.
Clicking out of the console is not easy to solve unfortunately. We are on it as well. What you can do is either focus on the console and press ESC. Or you can hit CTRL+SPACE once more and it will hide the console.
We do support "do something on DAY at TIME for DURATION" but it's still a bit buggy. We need to improve it :)
Thanks for all the feedback.
Re: Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
#44Warning - google accounts only. What's the deal with all these google-only apps? And on the other hand the de-googling of everybody on HN. It's super annoying, and basically forces you to use a throwaway google account. Also, with the whole supplychain security, why not just also promote your webapp, instead of a bundled electron app? ### In order for Routine to provide the value you are looking for, it needs access…
We prefer to warn users instead of just using their Google Account. As for why we use Google services. It's because most professionals do use Google Calendar. Some don't, we understand. We might serve them in the future but we have to start somewhere. We advertise the desktop app (instead of the Web app) because Routine is intended to be used through a desktop-wide keyboard shortcut so you can capture thoughts and ta…
Thank you for making clear how it works, as that was not directly clear. This is one of the problems with granting access tokens.. there's no way of knowing what'll happen with them.
Why not just release a macOS version on the appstore? Or, if you've created a swift version anyway, use that codebase for a universal app? There are also quite a number of apps that allow myself to 'convert' it to a 'native' app, with the exception of some features of course (such as global hotkeys).
Both desktop and webapp versions don't work for me (401 from google apps, not gmail), and show a blank screen. Login -> uncheck some checkboxes -> retry and check the boxes -> still blank.
Note: This could be create completely (afaict) using the built-in cal/task integration features of macOS/iOS, and would allow you use all supported calendar/task-services. For example, noteplan simply uses that, and will support dropbox as storage in later versions I think (it was removed from the beta version)
Re: Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
#45Congrats on the launch! +100 for keeping notes and tasks together. I think it's an under explored area. I really like the design, and how minimal you've kept it. I've been working in this space with Amna [ https://getamna.com ] and I know how hard it is to get the design right. It's soo easy to keep building UI for everything. One thing I found frustrating was closing out of the "console" when I was clicking out of i…
Thanks. Regarding the console, we know it's far from perfect.
For now, you can hide the console by re-hitting CTRL+SPACE.
Re: Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
#46Warning - google accounts only. What's the deal with all these google-only apps? And on the other hand the de-googling of everybody on HN. It's super annoying, and basically forces you to use a throwaway google account. Also, with the whole supplychain security, why not just also promote your webapp, instead of a bundled electron app? ### In order for Routine to provide the value you are looking for, it needs access…
We prefer to warn users instead of just using their Google Account. As for why we use Google services. It's because most professionals do use Google Calendar. Some don't, we understand. We might serve them in the future but we have to start somewhere. We advertise the desktop app (instead of the Web app) because Routine is intended to be used through a desktop-wide keyboard shortcut so you can capture thoughts and ta…
(for now at least)
That's why advertising the service around privacy is being criticized. It's a business. It will do business things. Saying it won't do those things is a distraction...like this conversation.
People who seriously care about privacy are not using Google to manage their information. They are not even your potential users, because they don't use Google.
Not storing data on your servers is a sound way to reduce your liability and attack surface. But that's an operational tradeoff that comes with a business dependency on Google's terms of service.
In B2B sales, not storing on your servers is a feature. But it's not really privacy. It's security.
Re: Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
#47Warning - google accounts only. What's the deal with all these google-only apps? And on the other hand the de-googling of everybody on HN. It's super annoying, and basically forces you to use a throwaway google account. Also, with the whole supplychain security, why not just also promote your webapp, instead of a bundled electron app? ### In order for Routine to provide the value you are looking for, it needs access…
If Google Accounts, then >1 Google Accounts. Haven't looked yet, TBH.
Re: Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
#48I use NotePlan[1], which is a similar app, and it's a joy. The downside of NotePlan is that is available only for Apple devices. 1. https://noteplan.co/
Been using it on/off since v1 or even before. Super fast and feature rich. I'm only on Apple, so it's fine for me.
Re: Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
#49one thing well, ever heard of it?
Re: Launch HN: Routine (YC W21) – Tasks, notes and calendar all in one product
#50I need this on Windows/Web
Windows needs a good G/Mail/Calendar app, like Mimestream on OS X, which uses the API.
I'm forever flummoxed that Outlook on Mac handles Gmail and Google Calendar just fine, as does Windows Mail, but not Outlook for Windows.