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They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, this again. This law was written to give code enforcement a cudgel against unlicensed repair shops. All the auto enthusiast blogs and forums immediately lost their minds, but there hasn't been a sweep of the neighborhoods with officers asking to look inside of your garage for uncommon tools. The one complaint I could find online [1] was from a dude whose handle was "nimblemotorsports" and he said he had a car lif…

Why not just require that a car being worked on is registered to an owner at the address? edit: All good points in response. I'm convinced that there is no point in trying to tune the wording of a bad law.

Because "unlicensed shops" is a red herring. They're trying to make life hard on the guy that owns a bunch of beater cars and turns his own wrenches. They're basically saying you have to be rich enough to do it indoors and dodge enforcement or you should GTFO because we don't want you here.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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post #196

This article paints a very clear picture of who is making the complaints without specifically saying it. [quote] 'One particularly vocal tenant, a non-Hispanic white woman with short blond hair who appeared to be in her fifties, claimed that smoke from the tires was killing nearby trees and that traffic from the gathering would make it impossible for an ambulance to reach her in the event of a medical emergency (thou…

> why do people move somewhere and immediately try to change a place to their set of values?

Why do people harass teachers to try to get the curriculum to reflect their values?

Why do people get elected to Congress and immediately try to change laws to reflect their values?

And so on ... because they think their values are absolutely, unassailably correct. Maybe it's because that's what they've been told on Sunday their entire lives, but there's little to no room for "maybe people from other cultures have values that seem strange or scary to me, but ought to be respected".

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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There are ways that people talk about gentrification that always makes me slightly uncomfortable. As a non-white person, something always feels like gentrification is something that “good” white people like to blame “bad” white people for doing, when the real problem tends to be wider and more systemic. In this particular instance I find myself asking why it matters that the Weaver residents were originally not from…

> I find myself asking why it matters that the Weaver residents were originally not from Austin.

> the real crux of this issue is that rich white people are so much more prioritized by the law that a couple of irate Karens can overrule an entire neighbourhoods opinion.

There's no reason to be racist. Cultures vary regionally. Californians in general act differently than Texans in general. Rural Americans in general act differently than urban Americans. Some people like their culture and community and don't want it to change just because rich outsiders come in.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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post #196

This article paints a very clear picture of who is making the complaints without specifically saying it. [quote] 'One particularly vocal tenant, a non-Hispanic white woman with short blond hair who appeared to be in her fifties, claimed that smoke from the tires was killing nearby trees and that traffic from the gathering would make it impossible for an ambulance to reach her in the event of a medical emergency (thou…

I would guess many of the complainers, in this story, didn't know the car club meet was a regular thing.

And if the car club members are doing burnouts and blasting music, I can't say I blame them. It's entirely possible to have a car meet without behaving like an asshole.

Edit/addition - there is a "Cars and Coffee" event most Saturday mornings a few miles from my home. Lots of fancy cars - Ferraris, Porsches, vintage American and British stuff, a real mix. For the most part, there are no burnouts, no thumping bass - just people who enjoy cars chatting, taking photos, and eating brunch. I go once a year or so, just to see what's there. If somebody complained about this, I'd tell them to pound sand. If it turns out the Austin meet doesn't have burnouts and thumping bass (as claimed in the article), those complainers should also pound sand.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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To be fair, I'm a middle-aged white engineer raised in San Jose, CA relocated to ATX in Dec 2020. I live at the corner of I-35 east-side frontage and 5th in a mega apartment complex. I've tried meeting many of my neighbors and most are asocial/antisocial. There are 2 women roommates and an African-American kid who are legit cool that I've met so far. Also, I don't even know the people across the hall. My conclusion f…

Working class neighborhoods. I live in one and the people are very real for the most part. Neighbors gather together frequently and are social but will leave you alone. We don't suffer any bullshit though. One of the main reasons I haven't moved is because the neighborhood is real and fairly devoid of weird Karens like the one quoted in the article.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Real estate law has this concept of “Coming to the nuisance” where if you know that there is some kind of “nuisance” nearby and you move next to it anyway, you can’t complain about it later. I’m not a lawyer so I’m probably pedantically wrong about it in some way but that’s my understanding of it. People do this with small local airports all the time. They move in, knowing full well (or should know full well) that th…

An airport is as predictable a nuisance as a once-weekly gathering at a public park?

I can see where the airport is on a map in relation to my new apartment. It's reasonable to expect airport noise.

If I visit the apartment, if I spend a day walking around the neighborhood, is it reasonable to expect a, (illegally) loud party to happen at a given time at a given week?

Should chicano culture be preserved? Should people expect to be comfortable in these homes? The answer to both is yes.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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post #201

One or two Karens complaining ... this is so minor in the grand scheme of life. Certainly not a "national story." Not sure why we (hn) is concerned with this.

Please leave the "Karens" clichés on reddit, and reserve this space for nuanced discussion.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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To be fair, I'm a middle-aged white engineer raised in San Jose, CA relocated to ATX in Dec 2020. I live at the corner of I-35 east-side frontage and 5th in a mega apartment complex. I've tried meeting many of my neighbors and most are asocial/antisocial. There are 2 women roommates and an African-American kid who are legit cool that I've met so far. Also, I don't even know the people across the hall. My conclusion f…

> Heck, my upstairs neighbor complained about my music on the weekend during the day without introducing themselves and not diplomatically.

Tangential (and probably just a perennial old guy complaint), but it seems like people have forgotten how to do this. If you have an issue with something your neighbor is doing, then go talk to them. Don't leave an aggressive note. Don't let it boil over until you're so upset you can't talk to them rationally. Living next to other human beings is a negotiation. You can't make a set of rules that cover every possible scenario and then ask police to enforce them. Just go talk to people!

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does it seem like people feel the need to make anything they can about race? (Maybe I'm just overly sensitive and it doesn't happen as much as I perceive, to be fair) I don't agree with the law, but literally every race owns vehicles. Why complicate the issue with racism if there doesn't need to be any complication? Seems like a clear cut issue that people can unite over that instead is being made into a minority…

Everyone might own cars, but if one population can only afford them if they do their own work on them, such a ban overly impacts that group. "AH", you might say, "but that is just discrimination against poor people, there are poor whites as well!". Yes. But if you look at the total wealth distribution in the US, last time I checked non-whites are much more likely to be on the bottom tiers than whites, given their ski…

I think it does erase the racism issue. I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist or that nobody should ever be concerned about it, but reflexively focusing all discussions on race drives wedges where there don’t need to be any. It would be like discussing every issue in terms of its climate impacts; sure, climate change is important, but don’t you want to be able to sometimes join forces with people who don’t share your views on it?
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