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Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by sandworm101 »

brazzy wrote: post #242
chki wrote: post #189

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Wow, the same ship with a very unusual accident just 14 Months ago. A very bad look and hints to a deeper systemic issue that was not fixed.

The cause for that accident seems to have been strong wind, which apparently makes these huge ships very hard or even impossible to maneuver when they are going slow. If true, then the "systemic issue" is only that ships are getting too big.

>> The cause for that accident seems to have been strong wind

The more descriptive cause is the failure to pay for adequate tug support/escort.

"(Escort tug charge) = 6,600 SDR/tug"

https://openjicareport.jica.go.jp/pdf/11657251_04.pdf

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by jlokier »

Draken93 wrote: post #311
lovelyviking wrote: post #301

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Can't see the flag, because the whole page is blocked by some BS (presumably in german). Blocking own content or creating obstacles to see it ... what can be more ridiculous. I just close such web pages and never come back.

The first notification informes you about the cookies the website is using. You need to agree to the use of the cookies to continue. This is mandatory by european law. But I agree with you that the placement and the fact that the banner blocks the whole website is unconvenient. The second notification tells you to turn your ad-blocker of or to watch a video instead.

> You need to agree to the use of the cookies to continue. This is mandatory by european law.

No, it is not mandatory by European law. The myth persists.

The site can use essential cookies or no cookies just fine, with no banner required at all. Nothing.

If they decide to use non-essential cookies, for example privacy-intrusion tracking cookies to follow your activity around the web for advertising, then they need to notify you of this tracking and obtain consent. You have a right to know, after all, and you might prefer to exercise your rights by declining consent. But nothing requires it to be a large banner, and nothing requires the "reject all" button to be difficult to find.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by jcpst »

sevengraff wrote: post #135
jcpst wrote: post #119

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I’m a software engineer at one of these global logistics companies. The market is extremely competitive. We are one of the biggest in the business, and we only capture small percent (I heard 3% before) of market share. We build event driven systems primarily glued together with Kafka. There are thousands of deployed products.

I'm interested to read about this if you've got links to related blogs or such.

On the logistics business side, I’ll admit that my knowledge is from the day-to-day and don’t read a lot outside of work.

Our company does have plenty of marketing material of course: https://www.chrobinson.com/en-us/about-us/technology/robinso...

I could ask some of the data science folks I know in the org if they have blogs, I’d be curious about that as well.

We have a blog that slowed down during covid (we’ve been very busy), but here’s one post about a serialization library we open-sourced: https://engineering.chrobinson.com/technology/inside-chr-avr...

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by thirdlamp »

speexmex wrote: post #252
cameronperot wrote: post #240

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I believe the cause of the incident here was a blackout [1]. [1] https://gcaptain.com/grounded-mega-ship-blocking-suez-canal-...

AFP reports gust of wind. > Early reports speculated the vessel suffered a loss of power, but the ship’s operator, Evergreen Marine Corp, told Agence France-Presse it ran aground after being hit by a gust of wind. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/24/huge-container...

Judging by the timeline on https://www.myshiptracking.com it looks like something that would be called pilot induced oscillation in aviation. Obviously speculation on my part, could be that loss of power weakened control authority over the ship and it became hard to manoeuvre.

The ship comes around the curve travelling north close to the outside (right, east, starboard) shore then overcorrect to the west shore then overcorrect more gravely to the east again and run aground.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by fullstop »

tilolebo wrote: post #333

Tide should apparently play a major role in unblocking the vessel, according to https://twitter.com/AgenciesLeth/status/1374708535603433472?... Live local tide: https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Suez-Egypt/tides/lat...

I am hopeful, but for some unfounded reason I'm giving it equal chances of suffering from structural failure when that happens and dumping shipping containers into the canal.

I was able to find news reports of the canal being dredged in 2015 but nothing since then.

edit: I see that they've already had one high tide opportunity which did not dislodge the vessel. From your tide chart link, I can see that the tides get progressively deeper until the end of the month, but that is a long time to be stuck there.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by jacurtis »

bombcar wrote: post #113
oliv__ wrote: post #108

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> 300 of every $2,000 of shipping costs for administration and paperwork Damn that's a lot. I understand this is a capital intensive industry so I guess it's hard/impossible to get in now but it seems like if someone started a competitor from scratch and had great software as the foundation of their company, they'd make a killing

15% overhead is actually pretty low all things considering.

Yeah the cost for paperwork and administration in aviation is over 50%.
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